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Solid State Hard Drives vs Mechanical Hard Drives
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Posted on 05/18/2020 5:59:01 PM PDT by ducttape45

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To: Swordmaker

“You have it backwards...”

Thank you for explanation. I guess it’s been a while since my last computer purchase. It was different then, which was only 3-4 years ago. :)


81 posted on 05/19/2020 7:12:31 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Vinnie

Going to replace the battery while I have it opened too.
Just need to learn how to clone the drive.


I bumped up memory while I was in there as well. As for cloning the drive, I bought a cheap enclosure from Amazon, put the SSD in it, formatted it and copied my HD to it—took a while obviously. I think I found step by step directions on YouTube. Then pulled the HD from MBP and put the SSD in. Thought having an extra HD in the case would be handy, but turns out I never use it.

Much of my machine’s slow down was actually from the HD. Program crashes, spinning beach balls all went away with the new SSD. As I said, it was like getting a new computer.


82 posted on 05/19/2020 7:13:13 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: ducttape45
Looks like you've gotten a lot of responses from folks on this. The consensus seems to be SSDs all the way, with the caveat that you don't want to buy cheap ones. I'm gonna toss my 2 cents in anyway, though it's pretty late in the thread.

SSDs give you much better performance. There really is no comparison between SSDs and platters for access rates.

The issue of having limited numbers of writes to a given sector of the SSD is not as big a deal as it was when they were first introduced. If you've got developers who do a lot of compiling, and such, you might run up against those limits, but for regular users, it's probably not a big issue. I'd just factor that in to the equation for those users. Don't be overly surprised if they need a replacement before the useful life of the laptop is reached.

The price differential between the two types of storage is huge, especially if you're looking at needing a TB or more of space. That may matter for some users. The more actual disk space you need, the bigger the price differential between SSD and hard disks.

Regardless of the drive type, regular backups of user data is critical. For the OS and/or programs not so much. The backup device should be spinning disks. (IMO) I use a backup program that uses 'rsync' to perform daily backups. This is insanely efficient from a space perspective. Since I use Linux, it allows symlinks for files. This means the backup program doesn't have to copy the actual data for a file that already exists and has not changed. Do not know if a similar program is available for Windows. To give you an idea how efficient this backup mechanism is, I have a 4TB backup drive. My home partition is 3.6TB, and currently has 737GB of data used. My backup drive has 30 full backups of my data on it going back to 2016. Even with 30 full backups, I've only used 2TB of space on that backup. That equals 22TB of backups in that 2TB of space. (my data doesn't change all that much on a daily basis). Backups are important enough to do religiously. If you don't back up your stuff, you deserve to lose it.

On my desktop, I have a smallish SSD for the OS and programs, and a much larger hard drive for my data. On a laptop, multiple drives probably aren't an option. I really don't worry about my boot drive. If it fails, I'll go buy another, and load the OS/apps on it and move on. I have backups of everything that is important, including offsite storage of monthlies.

83 posted on 05/19/2020 7:31:12 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: hanamizu

Thanks for the info. I like my MBP, hate the new ones(but that’s another story).
The HDD died, I sent it off to repair. They installed a 1T, 5400 rpm . It boots like an old Windows machine, sloooow.


84 posted on 05/19/2020 7:50:34 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: ducttape45

Go with SSD and use a usb drive or external for back up of sensitive files.

I’m planning to go SSD soon, already have over 150,000 pictures on an external 1.5 TB drive. I use smaller, up to 228 gb usb drives for carry around stuff, songs for band etc.

The SSD will last long enough you’ll probably replace the laptop sooner...


85 posted on 05/19/2020 8:16:32 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (That boy's about as sharp as a pound of wet leather - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: ducttape45

[[ I am investigating whether to purchase new solid state hard]]

Yes, absolutely- immediate speed upgrade-


86 posted on 05/19/2020 9:15:20 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: ctdonath2

my SSD has lasted longer than mechanical ones I’ve had i nthe past- i was always havign to buy HDD’s I’m sure the SSD will go- but so far so good-


87 posted on 05/19/2020 9:16:26 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: ShadowAce

bump for later


88 posted on 05/19/2020 10:53:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: ducttape45

James spelled “Jaymes.” I remember the commercials.


89 posted on 05/19/2020 12:05:22 PM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: ducttape45

MTBF on SSDs is absurdly long and getting longer every year. Meanwhile, M.2 disks are becoming more fashionable and boast astronomically better performance than even SSDs.

Bottom line: old school spinning disk should be relegated to 3rd or 4th tier data center operations like near-state backups or bulk storage (>100 TB). For consumer electronics, M.2 is the current standard bearer, and SSD is a comparable second for performance.


90 posted on 05/19/2020 1:50:49 PM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: ducttape45
SSD all the way. Their lifespan and reliability will outlive those laptops easily.

I have an SSD RAID Array in my old AMD FX-8350 and it's been running almost non-stop for just about three years now. Not a single hiccup with any of the SSD's in it.

BTW: BUY SAMSUNG SSD's. I cannot possibly recommend them highly enough. I also use other brands, none of them for anything more than a device to copy data to, label and put on a shelf. I trust my daily data to SAMSUNG SSD's.

91 posted on 05/19/2020 1:56:14 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Disambiguator
My workstation used to take 10 minutes to boot with a spinner

You must have the only working 286 on the Interwebs methinks.

92 posted on 05/19/2020 1:57:59 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

No, but it was old and fragmented.


93 posted on 05/19/2020 1:59:00 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: gogeo

Really? I’m have to go back and check that out. Thanks for that information.


94 posted on 05/19/2020 4:07:16 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Dr. Pritchett
I would put boot files on the SSD and back it up with Macrium Reflect free on another drive. If you have a laptop with only one drive, buy a thumb drive and use it to back up. You can backup once or every day depending on the time you want to involve. If lighting smokes the SSD you can replace the files in minutes after installing a new dirve.

Course I would give similar advice for a mechanical HDD also. I learned many moons ago to backup C: as soon as you get installed with all drivers and programs. If your data changes every day, think about what you simply must have to figure out what to backup and when. Programs don't need to be backed up, just the data it produces. On some programs I actually backup the data to separate multiple locations. I write my Bible studies in Word but save the study to at least 2 separate places to keep from typing 6-8 pages per chapter over again. My Genesis study alone lasted 57 weeks. If I lost it, I would literally loose thousands of pages. I also have hundreds of gigs of video's of my home study groups. I use a 6TB drive as my main backup and a 2 TB as a second backup.

95 posted on 05/20/2020 3:02:28 PM PDT by chuckles
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“I learned many moons ago to backup C: as soon as you get installed with all drivers and programs.”

Thank you for the reply. This is very helpful.


96 posted on 05/20/2020 5:41:51 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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