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Contact tracing: the next authoritarian frontier
American Thinker ^ | 24 May, 2020 | Carol Brown

Posted on 05/24/2020 6:36:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

What I’m curious about is that wouldn’t the ‘Karens’ of the world, who would scold you in the store for not wearing a mask be too scared to actually GO to someone’s house who might have it? I mean, if they came to my door, I might ‘accidentally’ start coughing and sneezing all OVER them, if I answered at all.


21 posted on 05/24/2020 7:41:04 AM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: MtnClimber
Unfortunately, I would believe that the NSA, Android and your cell company already can trace you, everywhere. It is not difficult to trace everyone you meet through the intersection of THEIR tracking with yours. We lost much of our privacy many years ago, replaced with anonymity. The only way to avoid 'the machine' is to leave the phone at home and/or use a 'burner' phone.

Alberta has had offered for the last month on Google play (and likely Apple Store), a CCP-Coronavirus tracing app. Note: I use MY terminology for it, NOT the official name. He🏒🏒 no! Sure, they have the ability to trace me, or anyone, but I want them to WORK FOR IT! Also, Alexa and similar items are no where to be found in my dwelling. What I say or do is none of Big Brother's business!

22 posted on 05/24/2020 7:59:08 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: MtnClimber
"Whitmer noted that it’s critical that people answer their phone for this to work"

Tough luck sucker!
23 posted on 05/24/2020 8:33:20 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Grampa Dave

“Developed by Bloomberg Philanthropies”...

Now there’s a new oxymoron for y’all...


24 posted on 05/24/2020 8:36:32 AM PDT by elteemike (lable)
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25 posted on 05/24/2020 8:37:04 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: datricker
Putting my phone in a Faraday cage...

If you don't want to be tracked by your cellphone buy a small cheap microwave and put it in your car. Then put your phone in it when you drive.

26 posted on 05/24/2020 8:37:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

if you find a public phone they have high resolution cameras on it and surronding area 24/7.


27 posted on 05/24/2020 8:38:35 AM PDT by meridenite
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To: GOPJ

Aluminum foil wrap isless expensive.


28 posted on 05/24/2020 8:43:36 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: elteemike

“Developed by Bloomberg Philanthropies”..

A mouthful of Oxymoron!:)


29 posted on 05/24/2020 8:58:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The CHICOM/PRCNN, controllers of America's Fake news media, CDCNN, WHO, are the Deep Staters!))
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To: MtnClimber

Wow. The paranoid conspiracy set is sure having fun on this. Of course they’re sounding like complete morons. But hey. Contact tracing has been part of epidemiology for DECADES. Get over it.


30 posted on 05/24/2020 9:04:25 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: bert

Thanks.


31 posted on 05/24/2020 9:05:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: LegendHasIt

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Wow you people are freaking LOONS. You put a lot of work into making sure EVERYTHING is satanic, or whatever. It’s a bad addiction.


32 posted on 05/24/2020 9:07:02 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: GOPJ

Not trying to be silly, but wouldn’t it be easier to simply turn off the device and only turn it on when you needed to make a call to send/receive information?


33 posted on 05/24/2020 9:40:10 AM PDT by beancounter13
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You can still be tracked with your phone turned off...

https://blog.erratasec.com/2013/07/no-nsa-cant-track-phones-even-when-off.html#.UhWRpbzhXu0

from link:

The best way to track an “off” phone is to (secretly) install a chip, connected to the phone’s battery supply. Thus, even when the phone is “off”, that added chip would still be “on”. In this case, it’s not really the phone itself that’s being tracked, but that chip. As long as you had a battery, the same tracking technique would work for portable laptops, your shoe, or even a gun. (This is how the ATF’s “fast and furious” program tracking guns was supposed to work — but the batteries drained too fast).

Another way of looking at the problem is defining, exactly, what “off” means. Conceptually, your mobile phone is “off” when you aren’t using it. A secondary, ulta low power “baseband” processor remains “on” to listen to the cell tower. When the baseband processor detects an incoming call, it turns the rest of the phone back “on”. Especially with older “feature phones”, turning the phone “completely off” would sometimes leave the baseband processor still “on”, thus allowing you to be tracked. For example, sometimes the phone had a timing circuit that will occasionally turn on the baseband to grab SMS messages every 10 minutes — even though it was “off” enough that it couldn’t receive incoming calls.

Even if the baseband is off, many phones still have an alarm clock that remains “on”. As the Nokia 1100 manual states “If the alarm time is reached while the phone is switched off, the phone switches itself on”. This timer circuit emits extremely low EMF that may be detectable. Given an area in the countryside where insurgents are hiding, it might be enough to locate them.

The moral of this is that just because you define the phone as “off” doesn’t mean that it’s 100% completely “off” all the time.


34 posted on 05/24/2020 9:48:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: discostu
OK, Sundar. Thanks for chiming in.
35 posted on 05/24/2020 9:57:14 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt

You put more effort into putting Satan everywhere than he ever would. Not spending my life desperately searching for 6s everywhere is not denying Satan, it’s having a life. By forcing him to be everywhere you look you are, in the end, worshiping Satan. He’s the true focus of your life.


36 posted on 05/24/2020 9:59:09 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu

You know nothing about me. It is incredible that you believe you know the true focus of my life based on one image that I posted. You don’t even know if I posted the image, and then the link in jest.


37 posted on 05/24/2020 10:10:11 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt

I know a LOT about you. They say a picture is worth a million words, you posted 2. That’s 2 million words worth of satanic obsession. Oh I DEFINITELY know it wasn’t in jest. if it was in jest you’d have said so by now. The very fact that your reply was Keyser Soze’s satan talk shows you MEANT is.

You’re obsessed with finding satan everywhere. And thanks to confirmational bias you find him everywhere. And that’s a sad sad thing to be. Complete waste of life.


38 posted on 05/24/2020 10:39:48 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu

And yet you are definitely wasting a fair amount of your life today trying to psychoanalyze me, a nobody who has no impact on your life. Not even trying to make a political point. What a waste.

OK, lets quit wasting each other’s time. I won’t bother to reply to you again on this topic.


39 posted on 05/24/2020 10:49:14 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Nope. Took 10 seconds. now I’m just making fun of you. Which is hilarious. And laughter is healthy. So definitely not wasted time.

I’ll believe it when I don’t see it.


40 posted on 05/24/2020 10:52:20 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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