Posted on 05/25/2020 5:54:28 PM PDT by Signalman
Karlsruhe (Germany) (AFP) - A top German court ruled Monday that Volkswagen must buy back a diesel car it modified to appear less polluting, a decision that could influence the outcome of tens of thousands of other "dieselgate" cases.
Judges at the Federal Court of Justice (BGH) in Karlsruhe "effectively upheld" a lower court's ruling that plaintiff Herbert Gilbert can return his car to VW for reimbursement, but he must also accept a discount from the original purchase price for the time he used it.
Almost five years after Volkswagen's admission to cheating on emissions tests involving millions of diesel engined cars, the ruling is the first real legal setback for VW in its home country.
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I guess I'm at the age when I won't care much about cars when my current diesel bites the dust...but IMO the enviroweenies are WRONG about them...as they are about everything else.
This combined with the economic down turn that is inevitable after this Corona virus farce cannot be good news for VW.
My two 15 yr old Diesel cars are still on the ~50 mpg job.
The newer ones have too many mini chemical treatment plants in the exhaust.
All those tens of thousands of Volkswagen diesel’s that were bought back? They are now for sale. Volkswagen dealers have modified them and are selling them with warranties.
But honestly, why would I want one? My 2017 Volkswagen Jetta gets me 40 miles per gallon on the highway using regular gas. Which, I might add, is $.50 a gallon cheaper than diesel fuel.
I'm no "environweenie", but Diesel engines DO have more particulate emissions than other motor types! That's why their exhaust needs additional filters and particulate traps.
This kind of pollution is real, unlike the nonsense CO2. After living in Pasadena for a while, I have no problems whatsoever with making sure engine particulate emissions are regulated. People deserve to have clean air as a standard, not a luxury.
Have a niece that bought one about a year before the scandal.
I read the owner’s manual, and the car had some sort of urea catalyst solution that had to be refilled about once a year.
At the dealer’s, of course.
She got rid of it under the US program, and bought a Honda, iirc.
Personally, the one I drove performed fine. I wouldn’t have cared if it cheated on the emissions. Or was the buyback mandatory?
I rented a diesel last time I was in Europe, and it did perform better than I expected. But around here, I’d never get a diesel - the fuel costs generally run 50 to 70 cents a gallon more than gasoline. Sure, they are more efficient, but the actual cost differential isn’t that much. Just clicked on one of the local Walmarts - Gas - $1.32, Diesel - $1.75. So only a 43 cent gap today. Kroger Gas - $1.39, Diesel - $1.99. So 60 cents there. More the gap I was expecting.
I wouldn't have cared if your mouth was duct-taped to the exhaust pipe and the engine revved up to red-line.
Go back to DU Mr. Moore.
The chances of that happening are pretty low.
I’m with you. Maybe if a car company was willing to take such a huge risk the regulations were outrageous in the first place.
I will concede the parity between premium and diesel around here, but I haven’t bought premium since the price of gas went over 30 cents a gallon.
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