Posted on 06/14/2020 10:59:27 AM PDT by MosesKnows
This may take a bit but I do have a goal in mind regarding solutions toward real and perceived racism in America.
On June 10, 1964, Everett Dirksen (R-IL), the Republican Leader in the U.S. Senate, condemned the Democrats’ 57-day filibuster against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Leading the Democrats in their opposition to civil rights for African-Americans was Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV). Byrd spoke against the bill for fourteen straight hours. Democrats still call Robert Byrd “the conscience of the Senate.”
Senator Everett Dirkesen broke the Democrat’s record breaking filibuster by referring to Victor Hugo’s observation.
Nothing is Stronger than an Idea whose Time has come
In his speech, Senator Dirksen called on the Democrats to end their filibuster and accept racial equality as something whose time had come.
My point is that the time has come to break the cherished tradition that exist at almost all levels of community against snitching.
The decision to snitch is a serious decision as is the suggestion to snitch. I would not propose it were the situations not so dire.
The people created legislative solutions to discourage bigoted actions. The people cannot create legislation that changes the hearts and minds of the people.
The hearts and minds of the people who believe that the black communities’ reputations are tarnished can change by the black communities’ actions.
It is my belief that only the black community itself can accomplish a change in reputation. I base this on my perception that the black community knows best who tarnishes their reputation. I think not snitching was a custom or tradition embedded in the minds of young people. I know it is in my case but I can only assume it is similar for others. My concern is that the reason the black communities do not snitch is not from tradition but rather from fear of retaliation.
I derived my position from biblical teachings and the organic documents that created my nation. Causal events caused me to decide that the best way to bring about formative change is if the black community’s reputation improves.
“Nothing is Stronger than an Idea whose Time has come”
Except an idea whose time has come in an election year.
As with shouting “fire” in a crowded theater, uttering the words “snitches get stitches” should carry a jail sentence.
Ten years seems about right.
How stupid
This I’m not racist mantra
Has grown so old
And ineffective
The civil rights legislation you love sucks
It’s party why we’re where we are
Freepers are so clueless
I swear to God
It’s worse now than 2005 during amnesty
Our urban areas are tottering on failed state status
Yet here we must proclaim we’re not racist or GOPe good Dems bad
Really
The GOPe are feckless idiots for the most part
Rush
Levin
Sean who can’t shut up
Same old garbage and we are losing ground folks
I’m a Christian too Moses
Good works Christianity ain’t gonna fix what ails us
You are going to learn that
We are dealing with a populace that at least a solid third support this street revolution slash theatre
This is much larger than the 1960s
Amarchsits are walking the streets with work guns
The democrat party
The media
Corporate America
Most institutions support it at least tacitly
The only opposition is most of white America and a decent chunk of Latinos and a smaller chunk of other minorities
It’s mostly urban versus rural or semi rural
It’s way beyond GOPe versus Democrat
Have you ever looked at a Goldwater election map
Just curious
You should
I can’t fix the problem on this forum the naïveté and lack of comprehension about the civil rights era or Everett Dirkson or Dixiecrats
Freepers like it LSD in sugar cubes...easy to swallow...don’t even know it’s there
Well it was there and it was unquestionably the jumping off point for the identity politics free fall were in no
And a major reason we don’t enforce our borders or laws when the target are non whites
The Leftist DAs won’t prosecute crimes. Murder? Theft? Vandalism? Pfft.
>>As with shouting “fire” in a crowded theater, uttering the words “snitches get stitches” should carry a jail sentence.
It is witness tampering and Hillary Clinton herself engaged in using threats of violence and surveillance to silence those who might’ve spoken out in the 1990s.
“Hillary Clinton herself engaged in using threats of violence and surveillance to silence those who might’ve spoken out in the 1990s.”
In her case, it’s less a threat than a promise.
“My concern is that the reason the black communities do not snitch is not from tradition but rather from fear of retaliation.”
Actually, it’s both, & the two are connected.
It is tradition— going back to the early days on the plantation. Slaves did not snitch on one another nor reveal the whereabouts of runaway slaves; they knew any transgressor would be beaten by the overseer & snitches were logically seen as collaborators in their own oppression & unforgivable for bringing any *more* suffering on fellow slaves.
But in the era of the Bloods & Crips, crack cocaine was seen as a path to riches & respect, and the resulting battles for control of turf resulted in an epidemic of black-on-black homicides and neverending retaliation, all considered part of “taking care of bidness” within the black community, while keeping whites out of the loop.
To report crime or agree to turn state’s evidence is, once again, seen as collaborating with the slavemaster, ie, cops, prosecutors = the white man. To cooperate with the white man’s law is to be a traitor to one’s own race. Hence, “snitches get stitches.”
IIRC, at the height of the crack wars, the city of New Orleans had something like 98% of drug-related homicides remained unsolved, because witnesses, fearing retaliation, simply refused to testify.
Nothing is Stronger than an Idea whose Time has come"
With all due respect MosesKnows, it remains that the federal government is prohibited from making laws that it cannot justify under the very limited, constitutionally enumerated powers that the states have given it.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
"On June 10, 1964, Everett Dirksen (R-IL), the Republican Leader in the U.S. Senate, condemned the Democrats’ 57-day filibuster against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Leading the Democrats in their opposition to civil rights for African-Americans was Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV). Byrd spoke against the bill for fourteen straight hours. Democrats still call Robert Byrd “the conscience of the Senate.”"
Regarding my previously posted rants against the ill-conceived 17th Amendment (17A), your paragraph above is duly noted.
More specifically, post-17A ratification Senate Democrats trying to kill the Civil Rights Act unsurprisingly did not have a grip on the constitutional reality that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the feds the specific powers to make race or sex-based civil rights protections outside the scope of voting rights issues, evidenced by the 15th and 19th Amendments to the Constitution.
Section 1: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.Section 2: The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation [emphasis added].”
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation [emphasis added]."
So the time had not yet arrived for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
While I support the golden rule, as a consequence of their blatant, inexcusable ignorance of the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers, misguided Democrats not only wasted 57 days spinning their wheels arguing against the constitutionally indefensible (imo) Republican Civil Rights Act of 1964, but they failed to stop its passage.
On one hand, anti-discrimination language maybe should have been included in the 13th, 14th, or 15th Amendments.
On the other hand, we don’t want the Constitution amended in a way that lets Congress find unconstitutional ways to expand the federal government's powers like the corrupt, post-17A ratification Congress does anyway.
Insights welcome.
Send "Orange Man Bad" federal and state government Democrats and RINOs home in November!
Supporting PDJT with new patriot federal and state government leaders that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA and stopping SARS-CoV-2 will effectively give fast-working Trump a "third term" in office imo.
I was a street TV reporter then. You are correct.
In 1964 you could choose between Everett Dirksen & Lyndon Johnson for the Civil Rights Act, or Barry Goldwater & Ronald Reagan against.
It’s amusing how many 2020 Republicans are passionate defenders of 1960 liberalism’s crowning achievement.
There has been no other Act that has given the bureaucratic state more power & control over everyday life than this one. Enjoy!
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That was the intended purpose... republicans in mass are scared of their own shadow ... I remember when I first began to listen to Rush, he said that the many did NOT want to be called racists, homophobic, and antisemitic... this was at the beginning of bjClinton's campaign against his adoptive daddy GHWBush.
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