Posted on 06/17/2020 8:35:39 AM PDT by C19fan
India and China's militaries have some of the world's most sophisticated modern weaponry, but their deadliest scrap in over 50 years was fought using fists, rocks wrapped in barbed wire and clubs studded with nails. There is an understanding between the nuclear-armed neighbours that despite their decades-old failure to demarcate their huge border, their troops in the disputed and inhospitable region will not use firearms. The several hours of scuffles on Monday, reportedly involving hundreds of soldiers around 4,500 metres (15,000 feet) up in the Himalayas, left at least 20 Indians dead, according to the Indian army.
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Until one side pops a nuke..
Rumble.
So who ‘won’ the stick and stone fight?
Here’s hoping that nukes start a-fly in’
Regardless of the pro-India, anti middle-class American worker crowd in this forum, India is not and never was our ally. They are as much a ‘strategic competitor’ as Communist China is.
While Communist China has decimated our production and manufacturing base, and India has decimated our employment base.
Both Indians and Communist Chinese abhor and hate Americans, both groups believing that they superior to Americans.
Sounds like the scene from the movie Anchorman, where the rival news teams ‘rumbled’, and then things escalated a bit...
If it wasn’t for the the American media’s naval gazing over COVID 19 and the protests, this incident and the fact North and South Korea are on the verge of shooting war would be front page news on every channel. We are literally at the point where an itchy trigger finger could start a major regional war between three nuclear powers (China, India, and North Korea)
India “won”.
20 Indian soldiers were killed but the Indian soldiers killed 43 Chicom invaders in return.
It is ironic that some very important news stories are being completely ignored.
The Chinese are causing all kinds of problems (are they nudging the Norks again?) yet few are paying attention.
Trump has responded pretty harshly essentially acknowledging that we are now in a cold war with them. The Quad is potentially picking up steam (a new NATO like organization in Asia) and few have even heard of it. This is a very big deal. Trump thinks big - wondering if Taiwan, Cambodia, Laos, Singapore, Vietnam, and S. Korea want to join? Is that possible? Yes. There is coverage on this in Asian news but none here.
Xi has gone dictator mad in China - the populace now has to “study his words”.
The economy is still shackled by shutdowns yet it is showing surprising signs of life.
SCOTUS just issued a controversial decision for employers on LGBTQ rights and ignored another easy pitch on the 2nd Amendment.
Nadler and the house democrats are cranking up Impeachment 2.0 over nothing (again).
Spygate has had some pretty big revelations and subpoena’s are going out.
Google and big tech are outright attacking conservatism - they are barely bothering to hide it now.
Sadly, you have to look to find appropriate coverage on these events as it is all mob and virus panic non-stop. I think it is going to be like this all the way up to November.
I suspect the left believes that they can essentially win the election as the public becomes fatigued with it all and votes Biden to end the non-stop hysteria and panic. In other words, much of what we are now seeing is a media strategy by the left. Ignore good news (benefits Trump), ignore the problems with China (benefits Trump), ignore spygate (benefits Trump), ignore an economic resurgence (benefits Trump), and focus on anything negative (hurts Trump).
I live in a predominantly Indian town. I live about a mile from the Walmart Headquarters who has a contract with Tata to fill vacant seats.
I see why. I mean when a company like that needs people, they need 3000 people. And NO area in the world can supply 3000 ... say .. Jewelry department sales phone support people. (And yes, that was a real hire). Tata gets it.
So as an I.T. pro I used to get $60 an hour offers. Here it’s $13 an hour and none of them have panned out.
By the way, how are you doing these days ?
Oh I actually forgot to finish that thought.
In this area when I show up at the playgrounds with my daughter the indians pack up their kids and hurry them away.
I’m doing Uber and learned some Hindi along the way. They really don’t like Americans, and white people in general.
They actually justify their hatred of the white just like the blacks do. Mentioning their colonial past where the British just weren’t great to have around. The people I talk to know that I’m not british, but they say “You’re basically the same”
The blacks in my town are all Marshallese. From the Marshall Islands. They were given refugee status here. They have feral children as parenting isn’t really a thing in the islands. Their kids literally roam the streets with weapons (bats, knives and even guns) around the age of 10.
They wear “The finest clothing” and all drive expensive luxury cars, yet live in hovels and broken down trailers.
Of course none panned out. Those $13/hr jobs are going to Indian H4EADs, no thanks to Obama’s illegal executive order that Trump refuses to end (he was going to end it until his jobs for HCQ deal with Indian PM Modi)
Me, applying to drive OTR. No one will take me due to my 20 year absence from the US. Swift, Werner, Butler all want 7 years documented US job experience (must be a US company with a US address and phone number). I guess I wasted $4500 for my CDL training.
Thats why I’m adamant about the $600 extra a week in UI. The Federal Government owes me it for allowing Indian H1Bs in to take jobs that you or I are more than qualified to do... even at $13/hr.
Only jobs offered in Colorado are part-time Amazon warehouse jobs. Even at $15 an hour, 20 hours a week doesn’t amount to much. Others are sub-minimum wage gig jobs, which are paying less and less as gas prices go up and up. The $1.10/gal increase in the last month-and-a-half were killer.
I make 4800 a month driving for uber eats. Lots of other people doing that are also ex otr.
If you are looking for otr, jb hunt is looking. Decent rates. Not great rates, hit ok.
Not in Boulder/ Denver. Try $1200 a month if you are lucky.
There are some videos on youtube documenting the Indian’s high altitude camp and defensive positions. Medical problems from just living there are prolific.
[Until one side pops a nuke..]
People float the idea of using nukes like they’re playing a computer game, where you simply restart the game once your character is killed. In real life, it’s very unlikely. The US has floated the use of nukes probably a dozen times since they were invented. It has used them precisely twice.
Nukes are never an option against a nuclear power with 2nd strike capability. The logic of nuclear weapons use dictates that any strike be an all-out attack to destroy the enemy’s command and control as well as its 2nd strike capabilities. That means cities and rocket bases. If you are going to kill millions of the enemy, you’d better kill them all. Because nuclear retaliation is guaranteed if you fail.
If India does a first strike, it needs to ensure that China’s SLBM’s are taken care of. That means its short-legged Kilo subs need to know where China’s SLBM-carrying subs are, and take them out before Beijing can get in touch with those subs with targeting information. Bottom line is that even if Modi kills a few hundred million Chinese, he risks tens of millions of Indian dead. Seems like a huge price to pay for a parcel of uninhabitable wasteland.
It will never be an option even in the event of conventional defeat. Losing land vs being made extinct? The choice is easy. Whereas any country that launches nukes against a nuclear power in possession of at least hundreds of nukes can expect to have its major cities and their inhabitants cremated. Nuclear doctrine is written to deter. When nuclear deterrence (to conventional invasion) fails, I expect committing suicide by initiating a first strike is a much tougher decision than the dry-as-dust documents would suggest.
Hitler tried to pull the temple down around him. I doubt any other leader, democratic or otherwise, would. Hitler wasn’t right in the head.
[If it wasn’t for the the American media’s naval gazing over COVID 19 and the protests, this incident and the fact North and South Korea are on the verge of shooting war would be front page news on every channel. We are literally at the point where an itchy trigger finger could start a major regional war between three nuclear powers (China, India, and North Korea]
Re North Korea, Kim won’t use nukes against the South. That would destroy the very economic assets he hopes to gain by conquest. And it would mean Kim would be incinerated by a saturation nuclear strike from the US, involving possibly hundreds of nukes, in order to avoid any further nuclear strikes from that direction. Even if his military survived, its supporting civilians would literally be toast. Without supplies, that military would swiftly be slaughtered by an enraged ROK military bent on revenge of the incineration of Seoul.
I used to live down in Arvada. I hear from friends that Colorado has become so costly that the natives have had to move.
But I can attest that when “they tell you what you can make” I accept that challenge. I was told that I would make $13 an hour as an uber driver. Others around me make that. I make a consistent $20-$25 per hour and the work is second nature now.
It’s not a permanent job but It can get you through the hard times. I only drive food now too.
Like anything, to become good at something you need a lot of study, practice and patience. I’ve applied all of those over the past year that I’ve been doing it and I make (hourly) among the top in my region. There are others who make more than I do but they work literally around the clock.
If you need $1000 in a week.. It will get you there but you’ll be working from 7am to midnight everyday. But it’s there and it can happen. Sign up for two or more gigs (I do Instacart when I want to fill in time) and you’ll never go hungry again.
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