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Pre-existing immunity against the new Coronavirus in the human population.
Swiss Policy Reseach ^ | 08/01/2020

Posted on 08/01/2020 8:16:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Pre-existing immunity against the new coronavirus

At the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, it was assumed that no immunity against the new coronavirus existed in the population. This was one of the main reasons behind the initial strategy of “flattening the curve” by introducing stay-at-home orders.

From March and April onwards, however, the first studies showed that a considerable part of the population already had a certain immunity to the new virus, acquired through contact with earlier coronaviruses (common cold viruses).

Further important studies on this topic were published in July:

See also: Immunological studies on the new coronavirus

Other medical updates

Wuhan: A Harvard modelling study in the scientific journal Nature came to the conclusion that even in the Covid epicentre Wuhan, up to 87% of the infections went unnoticed, i.e. remained without symptoms or mild. This means that the Covid19 lethality (IFR) in Wuhan may also fall to about 0.1% or below. The Nature study confirms an earlier Japanese study in the journal BMC Medicine, which calculated an IFR of 0.12% for Wuhan already back in March.

However, Chinese authorities couldn’t yet know this comparatively low lethality in January and February and therefore built additional clinics at short notice, many of which eventually remained mostly unused. Only the systematic test results from South Korea and the cruise ship Diamond Princess showed that the lethality of the new corona virus in the general population is indeed lower than initially feared.

Italy: The Italian health authority ISS published a new analysis of the cause of death in about 5000 corona patients. According to this analysis, Covid was the direct cause of death in 89% of the cases. In 11%, other diseases such as heart problems, cancer or dementia were the primary cause of death. Covid was the sole cause of death in 28% of cases. It is also known that in about 4% of the deaths, no medical preconditions were present.

Covid mortality: In May, the US health authority CDC published a cautious “best estimate” of covid mortality (IFR) of 0.26% (assuming 35% asymptomatic infections). In July, a new IFR of 0.65% was published. However, this new value is not based on own calculations or new studies, but on a meta-study in which the existing literature was simply searched for all previous IFR values.

Thus, the meta-study mainly consists of previous modelling studies as well as “raw IFR values”, which are much too high compared to the actual, population-based IFR values from antibody studies. With few exceptions, the real IFR values are between 0.1% and 0.4%, and when mucosal and cellular immunity are taken into account, they are approximately 0.1% or less.

However, the virus has spread much faster than anticipated, thus causing a temporarilly high death rate in some places, especially if nursing homes and hospitals got affected.

Non-infectious virus fragments: The U.S. CDC points out that in most Covid patients, infectious virus particles are no longer detectable ten to fifteen days after the first symptoms. However, non-infectious virus fragments (RNA) can still be found up to three months after the first symptoms. This is likely to be a significant problem with regard to PCR tests, as many people who have long since ceased to be infectious still test positive, triggering far-reaching tracing and quarantine false-alarms.

Deaths with or by or without coronavirus: In England and some other countries it has been reported that all deceased persons who tested positive for the new coronavirus since the beginning of the year were counted as Covid deaths – regardless of the time of the test, a possible recovery, and the actual cause of death. In the US state of Colorado, it was found that about 10% of deaths were with but not from coronavirus. In other US states, further cases of “corona deaths” became known that in reality were test-positive homicide victims and motorcycle accidents.

Children and schools

It has been known since March that the risk of disease and transmission in children is minimal in the case of Covid19. The main reason for this is probably a pre-existing immunity due to frequent contact with previous coronaviruses (i.e. cold viruses). There was and is therefore no medical reason for the closure of primary schools, kindergartens and day-care centres and for special protective measures in schools.

In the meantime, further studies on this issue have been published:

Critical expert opinions

On the other hand, Professor Karin Mölling, the former head of the Department of Virology at the University of Zurich and one of the earliest critical voices on corona measures, has now partly changed her opinion: Due to the sometimes serious lung damage, the virus should not be underestimated and containment measures are important.

The clinical picture of Covid-19

The lower-than-expected lethality of Covid-19 should not hide the fact that the new coronavirus, due to its efficient use of the human ACE2 cell receptor, in some cases can lead to severe disease with complications in the lung, the vascular and nervous systems and other organs, some of which can persist for months.

While it is true that most of these symptoms can also occur in severe influenza (including thrombosis the temporary loss of the sense of smell), they are indeed more frequent and more pronounced in the novel Covid-19 disease.

In addition, even apparently “mild” disease (without hospitalization) can in some cases lead to protracted complications with breathing problems, fatigue or other symptoms. The US CDC came to the conclusion that after one month, about one third of the “mild” cases still showed such symptoms. Even in the 18 to 34-year-olds without preconditions, about 20% still had after-effects.

On the positive side, researchers at a German clinic recently reported good chances of recovery: “We can see that the lungs can heal well, even in patients who have had three weeks of intensive care”. After three months, 20% of the intensive care patients had healthy lungs again, and in the remaining patients a clear regeneration was visible.

Nevertheless, the primary goal should be to avoid a progression of the disease.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19; immunity; kungflu; preexisting; tcells; update

1 posted on 08/01/2020 8:16:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I am sure we will hear nothing but crickets from the Fearpers


2 posted on 08/01/2020 8:20:29 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: SeekAndFind

I figure I am in that 81%. However, I will continue taking my prophylactic placebo.


3 posted on 08/01/2020 8:22:27 PM PDT by Cold Heart (Legalize Hydroxychloroquine)
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To: Cold Heart

RE: I will continue taking my prophylactic placebo.

What on earth is a prophylactic placebo?


4 posted on 08/01/2020 8:26:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: gas_dr

This is good news... lots of good news.


5 posted on 08/01/2020 8:50:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Stephen Hsu - Bari Weiss - Bernell Trammell - John Kass)
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To: SeekAndFind
I get that reaction a lot. When I tell that to my nurse friends they start laughing before the last syllable comes out.
6 posted on 08/01/2020 8:57:24 PM PDT by Cold Heart (Legalize Hydroxychloroquine)
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To: Cold Heart
😂
7 posted on 08/01/2020 8:58:00 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Cold Heart

The power of the human mind can be a powerful thing. In Psychiatry there are many studies of Hypochondriacs minds willing themselves to ill health simply from their phobias and resultant dread. Conversely, the opposite is true.


8 posted on 08/01/2020 9:08:34 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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To: SeekAndFind; Cold Heart

prophylactic placebo?
That might be a number of things, including the prophylactic / cure the President told us about, HCQ.

Or perhaps Quercetin from Amazon, or your local pharmacy...

If you have an anti Trump Governor.

~Easy


9 posted on 08/01/2020 9:20:29 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: EasySt

HCQ is supposed to be a prophylactic, not a placebo.


10 posted on 08/01/2020 9:23:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And if you bought into the EneMedia narrative and Cavuto’s rant,
it’s supposed to kill you...
;-)
And with all the enemedia backed “Fauci” types to tell us the evidence for HCQ is only “anecdotal”, while pushing flawed faked science to paint it
badly, one might be forgiven for considering it to be at the very least,
a good placebo.


11 posted on 08/01/2020 9:35:54 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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To: SeekAndFind

So getting 6-8 colds a year while I have littles running around is a good thing?


12 posted on 08/01/2020 10:00:55 PM PDT by 31R1O
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To: SeekAndFind

Bookmark


13 posted on 08/01/2020 10:03:59 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"What on earth is a prophylactic placebo?"

A prophylactic that looks good and seems to work but really doesn't do anything. Like a mask.

14 posted on 08/02/2020 4:24:04 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam---At war with Western Civilization for 1400 years)
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To: SeekAndFind
What on earth is a prophylactic placebo?

The reason all the "Whose the Daddy?" shows exist

15 posted on 08/02/2020 4:39:12 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think there are people out there who carry the virus, but are effectively immune from it.
So what do we do with those folks? Typhoid Toms, so to speak?
The ENTIRE EPISODE has been blown so far out of proportion by a news-hungry media and a vaccine-desirous CDC. Toss in a bunch of Trump haters and you got the perfect storm!


16 posted on 08/02/2020 4:45:16 AM PDT by djf (Better to be anecdotally alive than clinically dead!)
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To: SeekAndFind
My nephew was sick with the Covid for about two weeks while his live in fiance never contracted it. A guy on my senior softball team's two sons contracted it a couple weeks ago but he never did........

There were over 48 million cases of the 2017-18 flu during that epidemic but over 280 million people never contracted it, including me.......

What irks me the most is all the wide spread testing that is now occurring, leading to the spike in reported infections while nothing is being said about the numbers who are actually asymptomatic...........

17 posted on 08/02/2020 4:53:53 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Mase
Harvard immunologist Michael Mina explained that the “drop in antibody concentration” after Covid disease, dramatized by some media, was “perfectly normal” and “textbook”. The body ensures long-term immunity through T-cells and memory cells in the bone marrow, which can quickly produce new antibodies when needed.

...

18 posted on 08/02/2020 8:09:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Stephen Hsu - Bari Weiss .- Bernell Trammell - John Kass)
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