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Flu is killing more people than Covid19, and has been for months
OffGuardian ^ | September 9, 2020 | Kit Knightly

Posted on 09/13/2020 10:30:44 AM PDT by Pontiac

Areport from the UK’s Office of National Statistics (ONS) shows that since at least June 19th, more people in the UK have been dying of influenza than Covid19.

This, of course, is despite the fact that “Covid19 deaths” are incredibly vaguely defined.

Under UK law a person only has to test positive for the Sars-Cov-2 virus at any point in the 28 days prior to their death for “Covid19” to be on their death certificate, a policy which totally ignores the fact the majority of Sars-Cov-2 infections are completely symptomless (and has already resulted in huge over-counts).

Meanwhile boring old influenza is lumbered with having to actually contribute to the death before being added to the death certificate. And nevertheless, for three straight months, the UK has recorded more flu deaths than Covid deaths.

“Ah”, some of your may be saying, “this is just evidence that the lockdown, social distancing and masks have worked.”

But that is obviously not the case. Clearly, if these measures did anything to halt viral transmission, the flu deaths would have gone down as well. They have not. They are right in line with the five-year average.

Despite social distancing and wearing masks and hand sanitizer on every corner…the spread of the flu virus has not halted one bit in its usual annual progress through society.

Ergo – the “emergency measures” have little to no impact on viral transmission.

The “novel” coronavirus is still spreading all across the population and is now killing fewer people than normal flu viruses, even though it’s late summer and we’re well past the peak flu season.

Even following the state’s own coronavirus narrative – that every person who dies with the virus is a “covid death”, and that every positive test is actually a “case” and not a false positive – even then the Covid19 story is done. The virus arrived, it hit those with weakened immune systems or who were already seriously ill, and is now moving harmlessly through the population – regardless of whatever draconian controls we put in place to (allegedly) stop it.

Just as many epidemiologists and virologists predicted it would.

Does this mean the lockdown is over? Does this mean we can dump “the new normal” and get back to the old normal, which – though I wasn’t enjoying it much at the time – I now look back on as golden age of calm and reason?

Does this mean the government are going to leave us alone?

In short, no.

Instead, the social controls are getting stricter. The UK has announced that, from Monday the 14th, no social gatherings of more than 6 people will be allowed. There’s talk of a curfew too.

Oh, and those “immunity passports”? You remember, the ones only paranoid conspiracy theorists were ever worried about. Well, they might be bringing those in to. As a purely temporary measure you understand, so people can go to the movies again.

The numbers speak for themselves. The “danger” – such as it ever was – is over. The curve has been flattened, the hospitals protected, the hands well and truly sanitized.

And yet the lockdown is still here, and getting tighter all the time. Maybe, just maybe, it was never about the virus.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid19; statistics
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I don’t really care about that. Shoot the sobs where the stand. Shoot survivors again.

As many of us suspected all along COVID-19 and all of the government restrictions on society to prevent the spread of the virus is all a lie.

Why the governments of the world are doing this we can only guess.

My own theory is that the Globalist Socialist have been panicked by Trump’s success and willingness to stand in their way openly.

They therefor decided that the entire world economy must be brought down so that they may declare that it must be brought under UN control so that mass starvation can be prevented.

Call me a conspiracy theorist but pretty much the only other alternative theory is that the vast majority of world leaders are cowardly idiots that will simply follow the advice of a few epidemiologist when they say “Shutdown your entire economy or everyone dies”.

1 posted on 09/13/2020 10:30:44 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac

Keep wearing those masks!


2 posted on 09/13/2020 10:33:13 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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Total bullshit.


3 posted on 09/13/2020 10:39:56 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: Kozak

Just like the numbers you post daily.


4 posted on 09/13/2020 10:49:36 AM PDT by EEGator
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… the lockdown is still here, and getting tighter all the time. Maybe, just maybe, it was never about the virus.

You would think Donald Trump is running for office in the UK.

5 posted on 09/13/2020 10:51:55 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/flu-deaths-greater-than-covid-deaths-ons-graph-aug-28th.jpg
6 posted on 09/13/2020 10:54:54 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Pontiac; All

Yes, but there are the Covid scorekeepers, breathlessly perpetuating this bullshit to bolster Covid “Me too!” peer recognition. “Look at me, I got a lot of useless crap for you and I even post it on Free Republic.”


7 posted on 09/13/2020 10:57:41 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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“more people in the UK have been dying of influenza than Covid19.”

That’s overseas. Covid is flu. Plus they don’t have individual states that call any death that cannot be checked a covid one (to include gunshots). They just don’t know how to create an unnatural disaster and feed on it. The libs are very inventive. (And liars)

rwood


8 posted on 09/13/2020 10:58:06 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Kozak
Total bullshit.

Could you be a bit more specific

The article or the Scamdemic.

9 posted on 09/13/2020 11:01:31 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirs)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
You would think Donald Trump is running for office in the UK.

To the Globalist he very much is.

So goes the United States so goes the world.

The US is still the Shining Light on the hill beckoning those that live in the squaller of Socialism to freedom and prosperity.

And Donald Trump has been the more of a cheerleader for capitalism and freedom than any president since Ronald Magnus.

Four more years of Don Juan Trump is the Globalist worst nightmare. They will burn down the world rather than allow Trump to win the election.

10 posted on 09/13/2020 11:11:59 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirs)
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yes, the communist/gloalist google propaganda machine is the #1 venture capital investor in biotech

The globalist aristocracy wants to create a new medical Industril complex to replace the Military industrial complex. Yet the evidence that the pandemic is a fake exercise is right in everyones face just for spite, yet people refuse to believe the truth and instead trust the propaanda machine

headed by Bill Gates, the mastermind of the computer virus protection extortion racket

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

Real life science fiction

11 posted on 09/13/2020 11:12:28 AM PDT by KTM rider (, Virus protection isn't just for your computer anymore, we gotta pay up and pay dearly)
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When we sneeze, the rest of the world catches cold.


12 posted on 09/13/2020 11:13:09 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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I don't know anybody who died from the flu. I wonder what underlining condition those UK people who supposedly die from the flu had. Maybe they were old or had some type of health issue (diabetes/overweight) and were going to die anyway.

Fake numbers to get insurance companies to pay for flu shots. There is a huge industry built about flu shots. In 2018 that industry was $3.96 billion with projections of $6.20 billion by 2026. Why should the world spend over $3.96 billion to save people who were going to die anyway?

Influenza Vaccine Market Outlook
13 posted on 09/13/2020 11:16:06 AM PDT by DEPcom
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People who “die of flu” are those (usually elderly) whose immune systems are weakened by the flu and thus get pneumonia. What they die of is pneumonia.

Flu shots prevent pneumonia in susceptible people, keep most people from having horrid two-week cases of the flu, and provide herd immunity. Especially with the added presence of covid (with unknown combined effects), they are worth it!!!!


14 posted on 09/13/2020 11:28:25 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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People do not get sick from airborne transmission of Flu, COVID or any other germ.

They get sick from picking their damn noses, ears and eyes. Young kids are the worst offenders, naturally. And most parents do not see their own kids as a germ threat.

15 posted on 09/13/2020 11:51:06 AM PDT by montag813 (Nonsenze)
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People do not get sick from airborne transmission of Flu, COVID or any other germ.

Tuberculosis has been shown to be transmitted by airborne particles.

As far as COVID transmission mode, transmission rates, death rates, I have my doubts about anything the government has put out.

16 posted on 09/13/2020 12:04:37 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirs)
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To: Pontiac

He stunted the NWO in a big way.

The DNC in the US has no response but they are the ones who took the money.


17 posted on 09/13/2020 12:05:37 PM PDT by eyedigress (Nanners, put your mask on!)
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To: KTM rider
Real life science fiction (Event 201)

Dress rehearsal for COVID-19

18 posted on 09/13/2020 12:20:21 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirs)
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To: Pontiac

It was always one big lie. The response to the lie was also criminal up to MURDER of older patients.


19 posted on 09/13/2020 12:35:26 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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I guess they decided to move Flu Season this year. It’s usually November to February or so and falls off rapidly with the warmer weather. But apparently not this year.


20 posted on 09/13/2020 12:55:47 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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