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COS amendment for election reform
1/8/2020 | C210n

Posted on 01/08/2021 8:19:20 AM PST by C210N

Many things are clear or more clear after 11/3 and 1/6, and one of those is election reform.

A COS (Convention of States) has been discussed variously over the last few years since Mark Levin's "Liberty Amendments", and perhaps now more than ever an amendment is required that would NEVER be passed by Congress, let alone the current one we have now.



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: cos; elections
In the amendment from the picture:

Amendment [TBD via COS] 1. Positive identification shall be required to vote. 2. Election ballots shall be ink-marked paper. 3. Election data shall be counted and tallied within each municipality. 4. The power to enforce this article shall be prescribed in each State solely by the Legislature thereof by appropriate legislation.

Note the word "solely" by the legislatures. Note the intention to have liquor-store-level ID, and keeping vote tallying out of places like Frankfurt Germany.

1 posted on 01/08/2021 8:19:20 AM PST by C210N
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2 posted on 01/08/2021 8:23:16 AM PST by Delta 21 (Get off your ass and earn it!)
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Hand-counting of votes should also be required! NO machines!!! Monitoring of counting by observers from both parties should also be required!


3 posted on 01/08/2021 8:24:25 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Why would they obey some new piece of paper any more than all the previous ones? Before any new laws, current corrupt individuals must hang by the neck until dead. THEN and only then will chicanery by future officials be curtailed.


4 posted on 01/08/2021 8:25:45 AM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington )
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Why not include term limits?
The repeal of the 17th Amendment (popular election of U.S. Senators?)

How about just abide by the Constitution?


5 posted on 01/08/2021 8:27:11 AM PST by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, Libs, Progs, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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To: Honorary Serb

Great points.

I think the key for the wording of a Constitutional amendment has to be short, simple, to the point.

An amendment would be significantly wordsmithed for sure from the one I put up here. A question to ask, is any addition to it covered generically at least in its wording, or more suitable to be within the legislature-only crafted State legislation to accomplish all this.


6 posted on 01/08/2021 8:28:28 AM PST by C210N
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Add the following:

- modify RICO to include production, possession, distribution or use of illegal ballots
- illegal to import ballots for elections
- all ballots for US elections printed by US based and owned printer companies

All ballots to be marked with:
a) digital water mark of the make model and serial number of the equipment printing the ballot (already a requirement for all digital printers)
b) each ballot to be printed with batch number and unique serial number
c) All batches of ballots printed are to have a chain of custody from printer to signed delivery to the election officer/board
d) all ballots to be marked with the make model and serial number when counted by machine


7 posted on 01/08/2021 8:30:05 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Perseverando

The COS currently making the rounds has term limits high on the list for another amendment. Repeal of the 17th as well.

I agree though on abiding by it - it’s as if we need a new single-point amendment:

AMENDMENT XXVIII

1. Congress SHALL abide by this Constitution.


8 posted on 01/08/2021 8:31:37 AM PST by C210N
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This will not happen so long as half of our government is owned by socialists and the other half is enabling them.


9 posted on 01/08/2021 8:49:53 AM PST by MercyFlush (Donald Trump is my President and Free Republic is my social media!)
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I suggest precincts should be small to allow hand counting of paper ballots. Every house is assigned an elementary school.
Use that as the polling place. Elementary schools are purposely kept with a small student population so as to not overwhelm the young students. Therefore, the adult population of the addresses assigned to the school would also be small.
I believe small enough for a hand count of ballots. Votes counted at the precinct level where they can easily verify that they match the number of signatures in the poll book.

Inked Fingers

No reporting of vote totals until All votes are counted.

Voting rolls purged every 10 years. New rolls created when you fill out the census.

The DMV can ONLY add to the voting rolls with people turning 18, or changing addresses which is required by law anyway because you need a new license.
USPS change of address forms also sent to the election officials to update where someone should vote, or remove them if they moved out of state.


10 posted on 01/08/2021 8:52:00 AM PST by FredSchwartz (What ever happened to common knowledge and simple logic?)
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Serious question: how do you plan on passing anything in the Convention of the States? You do realize that the blue/progressive states will send representatives to the Convention and vote against things like this?

You’re really just wee weeing into the wind.


11 posted on 01/08/2021 9:30:52 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Biden - Not My President!)
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The COS could use a boost, and this probably fits well, along with the prior amendments they’ve accumulated.

The COS is a corollary to the “ballot box”, in that legislatures-only participate, one-vote per state. Gov’s and SOS’s have no role. Congress has no role.

Vote in a COS will not be unanimous. Involving all states that join in, need to take in the few with nefarious intent, and work towards them being in the minority.


12 posted on 01/08/2021 10:02:51 AM PST by C210N
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C210N wrote: “Vote in a COS will not be unanimous. Involving all states that join in, need to take in the few with nefarious intent, and work towards them being in the minority.”

So, you’re plan is to ‘pray for the best’? You need 38 states to call the convention. You need 3/4’s of the states to ratify anything coming out of the convention. Do you really believe that any blue/progressive state will vote to ratify a federal balanced budget requirement knowing that will cut off the majority of the federal funds going to that state?


13 posted on 01/08/2021 10:18:37 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Biden - Not My President!)
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what do you prefer. Then....

Would not having a COS, and continuing with the current status (potentially, the new status quo) be preferred because a COS is so “dangerous”?

Unless, you are solely an advocate for the last “box” available.... which has its own possible bad outcomes.


14 posted on 01/08/2021 11:11:27 AM PST by C210N
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C210N wrote: “what do you prefer. Then....”

Certainly I would prefer a situation where the majority if not all of the proposed amendments were adopted. I just think that is very unlikely. I think the same powers that prevent those amendments from being adopted in Congress will be the same powers that prevent their adoption in the Convention. There are reasons those amendments have gone nowhere and a convention won’t change the balance of power.

You’ve proposed election reforms including an ID requirement. The blue/progressive states have too much of a vested interest in preventing an ID requirement. There’s enough blue/progressive states to block that requirement in a Convention. So, the question becomes, why bother?


15 posted on 01/08/2021 11:48:09 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Biden - Not My President!)
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To: DugwayDuke

Once again, I surmise your next step is the last ‘box’


16 posted on 01/08/2021 12:13:40 PM PST by C210N
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