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COVID-19 case counts are incorrect: The problem is having falsely high COVID-19 case counts due to false positives can affect people’s perception of the dangers of infection and policy decisions
American Thinker ^ | 02/25/2021 | Thomas T. Siler, M.D.

Posted on 02/25/2021 7:03:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind

It is spoken across our land in constant refrain, "We are just following the science." Unfortunately, there has been only selective reporting of the science related to COVID-19 that has led to unnecessary fear and hysteria.

Major media outlets seem to pick the science that supports a narrative and ignores completely other important scientific findings. Some government health authorities seem to pick the science that supports their policies for masks, lockdowns, treatments, and testing and ignore other science that would lead to less onerous and destructive policies restricting our personal freedoms.

Having a rational discussion of ALL the science would lead to much less fear and more helpful policies aimed at balancing the need to protect the vulnerable and preserving our rights, freedoms, and means to make a living. This essay comments on COVID-19 case counts being artificially high due to errors in testing.

PCR testing that has been done for COVID-19 can be a faulty way, used by itself, to diagnose a case. PCR testing was mainly meant to be a research tool used to detect small amounts of a protein or chemical by amplifying the sample many times. PCR testing was not meant to be a stand alone test to define a case of COVID-19 infection. Doctors know the main diagnostic tool is to have a patient with typical symptoms and signs of the disease. Additional lab testing can confirm and support the diagnosis.

The answer to a PCR test is not yes or no -- the result can depend on how many amplification cycles are used. On any given set of samples, an amplification rate of 15(small) could be negative for all samples. If the amplification rate is 40 (high) then all the samples from the same set might be positive.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: casecounts; falsepositives; followthescience; infections; xovid19
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1 posted on 02/25/2021 7:03:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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For our COVID test in use, it is recommended that the cycle rate be set at less than 35 and closer to 25-30 is better.

The tests we are using are being run at cycle rates of 37-40. Some PCR tests using these high cycle rates are not picking up live virus, but only minute virus particles. This creates false positives and more "cases" that are not real cases.

Dr. Fauci admitted this in an interview on "This Week in Virology" in July, stating that any test over cycle rate 35 is not finding live infectious virus, just virus particles.

The New York Times reported in August that in their study of testing in Nevada, Massachusetts, and New York up to 90% of the tests may have been false positives detecting barely any virus.

The WHO put out a bulletin 3 weeks ago warning that the PCR test for COVID-19 should be run at the proper cycle rate to get a true positive. Why warn the world in January 2021 after almost a year of pandemic? In an independent review of European testing problems, it was stated by the scientists "If someone is tested by PCR as positive above 35 cycles(as is the case in most laboratories in Europe and the United States) the probability that said person is actually infected is less than 3%, the probability that said result is false positive is 97%".

Florida is the first state as of December 3, 2020 to mandate that the lab performing the PCR test report how many amplification cycles were used as a way curb false positives. Perhaps one reason Florida is now perceived to be doing well is because they are getting more accurate test results.

2 posted on 02/25/2021 7:05:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Then there is stuff like this:

https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/02/15/im-a-clinical-lab-scientist-covid-19-is-fake-wake-up-america/

I take no Rona info seriously any more. As far as I’m concerned, it doesn’t exist.


3 posted on 02/25/2021 7:06:04 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: SeekAndFind

From my above source:

What we found was that all of the 1500 samples were mostly Influenza A and some were influenza B, but not a single case of Covid, and we did not use the B.S. PCR test.

We then sent the remainder of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a few of the University of California labs and they found the same results as we did, NO COVID. They found influenza A and B. All of us then spoke to the CDC and asked for viable samples of COVID, which CDC said they could not provide as they did not have any samples. We have now come to the firm conclusion through all our research and lab work, that the COVID 19 was imaginary and fictitious.

The flu was called Covid and most of the 225,000 dead were dead through co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, emphysema etc. and they then got the flu which further weakened their immune system and they died.

I have yet to find a single viable sample of Covid 19 to work with. We at the 7 universities that did the lab tests on these 1500 samples are now suing the CDC for Covid 19 fraud. the CDC has yet to send us a single viable, isolated and purifed sample of Covid 19. If they can’t or won’t send us a viable sample,


4 posted on 02/25/2021 7:07:10 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just this morning the local news was reporting on the virus.
One bit of information was number of deaths. But no indication if it was by week, month, or year.
This disinformation campaign is pure propaganda. Create a false narrative to drive the agenda. Crash the economy to steal an election.
December of 2019 I jokingly asked a coworker what the heck could the democRATS possibly do to beat Trump. They had nothing.
Now it’s obvious to anyone with a functional brain what they did.


5 posted on 02/25/2021 7:08:16 AM PST by 9422WMR (Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Dr. Siler is writing like public health is the goal. It isn’t. High false positive rates are necessary to create panic. They try to balance it out by creating false death rates, but the high false positive rate makes it difficult.

The virus is somewhat dangerous for old people and fat people. Our population has a lot of fat and/or old people. Some honesty would go a long way to saving lives AND saving our society. Meanwhile, more lockdowns, more mask mandates, more mandatory vaccines (really think one is all there will be?), more criminalizing of gatherings, more small businesses shutting down, more wealth being transferred to billionaires, more drug abuse, more suicide; that’s what we will get. It’s by design.


6 posted on 02/25/2021 7:14:59 AM PST by cdcdawg (“we have to bring these people in.”)
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To: cuban leaf

Yep!


7 posted on 02/25/2021 7:19:48 AM PST by Bill of Rights FIRST
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To: cdcdawg

Yep!


8 posted on 02/25/2021 7:21:05 AM PST by Bill of Rights FIRST
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To: cuban leaf

This is right up there with “birds aren’t real, they’re government drones!”

Yes, SARS-CoV-2 is real. It’s been imaged directly by multiple labs from patient samples. It’s been measured. It’s not the same size as Influenza virus. It’s been genetically sequenced. We know every protein in it and how they fold. Its genetic sequence is twice the size of Influenza virus. It’s not even the same phylum as Influenza virus.

SARS-CoV-2 is literally as closely related to Influenza virus as human beings are to snails.


9 posted on 02/25/2021 7:27:05 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Waiting for the FR scientists to inform us otherwise

Idiots

You are being lied to and manipulated

This is costing people their livelihoods and relationships


10 posted on 02/25/2021 7:32:25 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: SeekAndFind

As I wrote earlier, these COVID stats are bogus; if the same person gets checked five times for COVID and has it without symptoms the hospital records five cases.


11 posted on 02/25/2021 7:48:39 AM PST by SkyDancer (Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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To: 9422WMR

‘Crash the economy to steal an election.’

that’s all well and good, but what about the rest of the world...? did they also crash their economies to get rid of Trump...?


12 posted on 02/25/2021 7:53:41 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

‘We know every protein in it and how they fold. Its genetic sequence is twice the size of Influenza virus.’

instead of regaling us with this information, you should take it up with the scientists in the article you’ve objected to, and then get back to us with results, if you feel bound to inform us...


13 posted on 02/25/2021 7:59:42 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

The virus unleashed by the Chinese/democRATS got out of hand either accidentally or intentionally. Flights from Wuhan went globally spreading the created virus.


14 posted on 02/25/2021 8:05:33 AM PST by 9422WMR (Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: SeekAndFind

False flag.

Test positivity rates have been a roller coaster. The false positive rate of any given type of test remains constant over time. It’s impossible for the roller coaster positivity graphs we’ve seen to be caused by false positives.


15 posted on 02/25/2021 8:10:04 AM PST by nagant
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To: SeekAndFind

“due to false positives”

The false numbers are not all due to “false positives”. You don’t have basically zero seasonal flu deaths in the same statistics because you are getting false positives on COVID tests. You get them because you are dishonestly categorizing every respiratory illness death as “COVID-related”. It is intentional fraud, not sloppiness.


16 posted on 02/25/2021 8:17:46 AM PST by Boogieman
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HAS ANYONE ASKED THE EFFING CHINESE TO 'APOLOGIZE' YET?

(If XI had used the "N" word rather than murdering millions of people democrats would have demanded an apology...)

Crickets

17 posted on 02/25/2021 8:24:55 AM PST by GOPJ (Was Jussie Smollett working for "Homeland Security" when he faked his hate crimes?)
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To: IrishBrigade

The source isn’t a published, peer reviewed scientific article; it’s some lunatic’s fake news blog post on WordPress.

Why would I engage directly with a blogger spreading fake news when I’d rather spend time with you?


18 posted on 02/25/2021 8:52:56 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: SkyDancer

No, they do not. There are separate stats for tests and cases. A person tested 5 times is 5 tests and one case.

The numbers are tracked separately. If they weren’t, you might have a point, but they are, so we know that’s incorrect.


19 posted on 02/25/2021 8:55:23 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That was the whole intent of the PCR test! Create false positives to drive the Liberal narrative. It wasn’t a mistake ffs!


20 posted on 02/25/2021 9:01:02 AM PST by oil_dude
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