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Cancer Without Chemotherapy: ‘A Totally Different World’
New York Times ^ | Sept. 27, 2021 | Gina Kolata

Posted on 09/27/2021 11:46:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Cancer Without Chemotherapy: ‘A Totally Different World’ A growing number of cancer patients, especially those with breast and lung cancers, are being spared the dreaded treatment in favor of other options.

Dr. Seema Doshi, a dermatologist near Boston, thought it was a foregone conclusion that she would have to undergo chemotherapy when a cancerous lump was found in her breast in 2019.Credit...Lauren Justice for The New York Times

Dr. Seema Doshi was shocked and terrified when she found a lump in her breast that was eventually confirmed to be cancerous.

“That rocked my world,” said Dr. Doshi, a dermatologist in private practice in the Boston suburb of Franklin who was 46 at the time of her diagnosis. “I thought, ‘That’s it. I will have to do chemotherapy.’”

She was wrong.

Dr. Doshi was the beneficiary of a quiet revolution in breast cancer treatment, a slow chipping away at the number of people for whom chemotherapy is recommended. Chemotherapy for decades was considered “the rule, the dogma,” for treating breast cancer and other cancers, said Dr. Gabriel Hortobagyi, a breast cancer specialist at MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. But data from a variety of sources offers some confirmation of what many oncologists say anecdotally — the method is on the wane for many cancer patients.

Genetic tests can now reveal whether chemotherapy would be beneficial. For many there are better options with an ever-expanding array of drugs, including estrogen blockers and drugs that destroy cancers by attacking specific proteins on the surface of tumors. And there is a growing willingness among oncologists to scale back unhelpful treatments.

The result spares thousands each year from the dreaded chemotherapy treatment, with its accompanying hair loss, nausea, fatigue, and potential to cause permanent damage to the heart and to nerves in the hands

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: cancer; cancertreatment; chemotherapy; medicine; nochemotherapy
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1 posted on 09/27/2021 11:46:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Sounds like the MRNA stuff they’re using with the shots.


2 posted on 09/27/2021 11:48:25 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder how many breast cancer people had been on birth control pills for a significant period of their lives.


3 posted on 09/27/2021 11:48:42 AM PDT by fwdude (If you don’t think you are in a battle w/ the culture for your children then you are already losing.)
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To: nickcarraway

MD Anderson is,along with Dana Farber in Boston and Sloan- Kettering in NYC,the best cancer treatment,and research,center in the world.


4 posted on 09/27/2021 11:51:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: caww

Doctors I’ve talked with say Mrna style methods will be used for all sorts of diseases.


5 posted on 09/27/2021 11:52:28 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: nickcarraway

For BC, if you catch it early enough it can be surgically removed it before it spreads. In that case chemo may be unwarranted but I think they are still recommending radiation and hormone therapy. Genetic testing will also reveal whether one is more or less prone to recurrence.

Also for BC and Prostate cancer, there are approved immunotherapies. For PC there is a treatment that infuses your blood with antibodies that are primed to kill all prostate cells. One would need the prostate removed first otherwise of course it will swell up as it attacks itself. But the idea is that the immunotherapy will go around and kill off any stray prostate cells that may be circulating in the body, before it metastasizes somewhere else.


6 posted on 09/27/2021 11:54:36 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: plain talk

Yep...heard that too.


7 posted on 09/27/2021 11:55:33 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: plain talk; caww

Now that you mention it in a way mRNA technology is a form of immunotherapy. I didn’t make that connection before, even knowing that immunotherapies already exist.

They tend to work slower because it takes time for the body to learn how to attack. Even with the mRNA shots they say it takes 2 weeks.


8 posted on 09/27/2021 11:58:49 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: nickcarraway

Chemotherapy: We make you so sick, even cancer doesn’t want to live in you any longer.


9 posted on 09/27/2021 12:08:34 PM PDT by Malsua
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For BC, if you catch it early enough it can be surgically removed it before it spreads.

No, breast cancer is not one of the cancers that progresses from small tumor to large tumor to metastasis. In many case for breast cancer, they remove it and later there is metastasis, because that happened earlier. That's why the data on screening for breast cancer is no as great as other cancers. Same with prostate cancer.

For colon cancer and cervical cancer, screening works well.

10 posted on 09/27/2021 12:35:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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PSA screening for prostrate issues is common, my yearly chem panel caught a higher PSA number and resulted in further testing and treatment.

Don’t understand your statement.


11 posted on 09/27/2021 1:24:51 PM PDT by UB355 (Slow Traffic keep right)
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To: monkeyshine

Prostate cancer is treated often with hormones which shut off testosterone which feed the prostrate cells. then with follow up targeted radiation.


12 posted on 09/27/2021 1:29:35 PM PDT by UB355 (Slow Traffic keep right)
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This Dr. thinks the very act of cutting out the tumor activates cancer cells that have already escaped to other parts of the body.

He says this could be prevented if the surgeon would administer an NSAID prior to surgery.

My wife had a lump removed in early 2013. The surgeon said it was well localized and got it all, and the associated lymph nodes was clear.

Yet in 2018 we learned it had spread to her spine and both femurs. She died last October.

I tried to get her oncologist and PA to watch the video prior to a biopsy but they wouldn’t listen, saying the risk of bleeding was greater than the risk of spreading it further.


13 posted on 09/27/2021 2:24:21 PM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: JohnnyP

Forgot to paste the link to Dr. Virkas:
https://youtu.be/H8zVrYEW8vE


14 posted on 09/27/2021 2:25:08 PM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: fwdude

My wife is a three-year survivor of triple negative breast cancer. The team of doctors who managed her case were very strident in saying that there is no evidence that anything you’ve done, including birth control, contributed to your cancer. I also caution people about discussing breast cancer without realizing that there are multiple types that require vastly different treatments. My wife’s - triple negative - was non-hormonal and requires very aggressive chemo and surgery as it can spread quickly within the first three years.


15 posted on 09/27/2021 2:27:19 PM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: caww

My aunt was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and was given 1-3 months to live. She opted not to have chemo, rallied, and lived 2 years and three months longer.


16 posted on 09/27/2021 2:42:23 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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It can actually go either way.....good she lived as she did.


17 posted on 09/27/2021 2:47:01 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: nickcarraway
Genetic tests can now reveal whether chemotherapy would be beneficial.

This has been true for at least 10 years.

I can only read the excerpt of the article, so IDK if it goes on to give more recent information.

18 posted on 09/27/2021 2:54:53 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: monkeyshine

My wife had breast cancer in one breast only 30 years ago, we did a double mastectomy and followed that with nothing whatsoever and she is still with me.


19 posted on 09/27/2021 3:32:16 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: JohnnyP; Elsie
This Dr. thinks the very act of cutting out the tumor activates cancer cells that have already escaped to other parts of the body.

That's quite interesting. In December 2019 I was diagnosed with Merkel Cell Carcinoma, a very aggressive skin cancer that had moved into my left shoulder and cheek. Major operation in February removed everything we thought only to find in April that it had spread through out my entire body cavity. Then my oncologist told me about Keytruda, a dangerous new approach with infusions every six weeks. I started in may with the $30,000 infusions. Thank heaven for Medicare. On December 23 the cancer was gone.

Luckily I am here on FR to tell about it

20 posted on 09/27/2021 3:40:15 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Utah: Where the world comes to see America)
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