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General George S. Patton's Personal Jeep Driver Remembers the Legendary Man (NOTE: the REAL STORY about the "slapping incident" and not what you think)
youtube ^ | 12//21/2021 | AMERICAN VETERANS CENTER

Posted on 12/23/2021 8:29:29 PM PST by max americana

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To: Pelham

“Hardly. Logistics was back in England, at the Normandy beach head, at the ports, at the supply dumps. Logistics is the transport and the supply system, not the tip of the spear. That’s not what Patton’s staff was charged with doing.”

BS! Absolute bs!

“Patton again had to start from scratch and mold his army into a “hell on wheels” outfit. Luckily, he was able to keep his principal Seventh Army staff officers including his G-4, Walter J. Muller, who “functioned with such efficiency that Patton rarely inquired into his methods.”37 With operations in France expected to last considerably longer than Patton’s two previous campaigns (Tunisia and Sicily at 30 and 38 days respectively), the Third Army had to quickly plan and prepare for logistics support on a much larger scale....

As Patton continued focusing his main energies eastward towards Germany, Third Army quartermasters struggled to keep his spearheads fueled and supplied. Just six days into battle, the Third Army daily combat diary recorded that “supply lines were lengthening rapidly and putting a strain on the truck companies.” Dipping into emergency ration reserves began almost immediately, with corresponding “acquisition” (also known as stealing or liberating) of available fuel stocks from other units. The advance moved so rapidly, that communication wire soon was in short supply as were medical supplies. Third Army G-4 requested additional truck companies and aviation groups to increase medical evacuation and resupply efforts. In late August, over 1,000 aircraft delivered rations and fuel to Patton’s forward elements—averting a complete halt for a few more days. Captured German food, medical supplies, POL, and communications wire were also reallocated for immediate use....”

https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/ASPJ/journals/Chronicles/decker.pdf

I have no more idea why you think Patton didn’t have logistics personnel working on his staff than why you believe Eisenhower was just a transmitter for higher levels of command. He absolutely had responsibilities for MAKING decisions, just as every commander at every level does - and those decisions included the strategic level. Eisenhower obviously had commanders above him, but his command was not a meaningless one!


61 posted on 12/25/2021 7:43:47 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Excellent video, thanks for posting


62 posted on 12/26/2021 4:56:18 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My favorite word is Tweezer)
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This topic was posted 12/23/2021, thanks max americana.
Victor Davis Hanson, the Wayne and Marcia Buske Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College, is also a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and a professor of classics emeritus at California State University, Fresno. He earned his B.A. at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and his Ph.D. in classics from Stanford University. In 2007, he was awarded the National Humanities Medal, and in 2008, he received the Bradley Prize from the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation. He has written for numerous publications, including the Claremont Review of Books, The New Criterion, and The Wall Street Journal. He is the author of several books, including A War Like No Other: How the Athenians and Spartans Fought the Peloponnesian War and The Second World Wars: How the First Global Conflict Was Fought and Won.

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Victor Davis Hanson | George S. Patton: American Ajax | 1:02:38 | Hillsdale College | 505K subscribers | 1,761,945 views | February 13, 2020

63 posted on 07/21/2023 7:35:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Politics do not make strange bedfellows, and the enemy of your enemy may still be your enemy.)
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To: SunkenCiv
With all due respect, your dad was wrong.

That is a terrible thing to say about someone's father.

I have no respect for anyone who uses the expression 'with all due respect' because it's a lie. You are showing no respect at all.

64 posted on 07/21/2023 7:45:03 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Mr. Lucky

My uncle served as a motorcycle messenger for Patton in very hot situations. Loved him and believed he was murdered for political reasons, to prevent him from a political career.


65 posted on 07/21/2023 7:49:12 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: ladyjane

Shove it.


66 posted on 07/21/2023 9:54:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Politics do not make strange bedfellows, and the enemy of your enemy may still be your enemy.)
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