Posted on 01/31/2022 2:11:31 PM PST by nickcarraway
The former Giants great was caught up in the infamous BALCO scandal that rocked the sporting world, in which he allegedly took a performance-enhancing anabolic steroid known as ‘the Clear’, which was undetectable by any doping tests.
Shouldn’t there be a story in the Babylon Bee about Barry Bonds’s pharmacist being elected to the Hall of Fame?
Amphetamines did not become illegal until 1970 — not sure what MLB policy was prior to that though the Rolling Stones did have a song about them in Mother’s Little Helper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OusADDs_3ps
Cheers!
I lived on the same street as Barry when we were kids, about 5 houses down. He was arrogant even as a child. My oldest sister used to babysit for him; she called him “the brat”.
The question is were baseball stats before 1970 padded because of use of amphetamines (legal or non-legal)? There was a cocaine era in there as well. Some of the muscle building drugs used by ballplayers in the 80’s were not banned by MLB at the time.
I remember questions about some of the training regimens and diet of Maguire, Bonds, and Sosa at the time they were hitting the homeruns but baseball ignored it because the fans were starting to watch. Since baseball turned a blind eye then, keeping them out of the HOF seems hypocritical. Since the voting was done by media employees, I wouldn’t expect anything less.
Curious as to how you can maintain that a manager of a team who gambles on his team does not impact the outcome of a single game.
“You reward what you value.”
Was there a test?
No.
Curious as to how you can maintain that a manager of a team who gambles on his team does not impact the outcome of a single game.
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A manager’s job is to win games. Rose may have benefited from inside information, but his betting interest was to win the games he bet on. The opposite of point-shaving, which is what the anti-gambling rule is in place for.
Respectfully, your logic is circular. Baseball could lift his lifetime suspension at any time. If Rose played for the Boston Red Sox or the New York Yankees, he would’ve been enshrined 20 years ago.
Yes, I’ve heard Shoeless Joe’s relatives have repeatedly petitioned the Hall of Fame. No proof he ever took any money but, like Buck Weaver, he sat on information. I always felt that these guys and Pete Rose (betting on his own team) got a raw deal at worst and equal punishment for what was clearly not an equal crime at best.
What about NFL quarterbacks breaking records when the rules changed to protect the quarterback and previous quarterbacks had to take a beating to get their records?
‘Are they allowing anyone from the 90’s?’
I always get a laugh out of people complaining about so and so using PED’s, and thus ‘cheating’; well, instead of bitching, maybe these whiners could, like, take a couple of PED’s themselves, and try competing with the ‘cheaters’ and beating then at their own game...
I’ve read that Tom Brady is highly conscious of his diet and workout routine, maintaining it is necessary for him to compete; does this not give him an unfair advantage over someone like Jared Lorenzen or Ken Stabler, who never turned down a beer or a bag of pork rinds, and whose idea of a workout was simply squeezing into a uniform...? what about the vitamin popper, the guy who gets more regular sleep, the guy who maintains his weight at optimal levels for play; aren’t they cheating as well, since what they do gives them a leg up...
as for Barry Bonds...? I heard he was a lousy teammate, I’d keep him out for that, but as a baseball slugger, he was one of the best, so yeah, he should be in the Hall...
‘It pains me greatly to see the old records being beaten by men using steroids.’
many of the old records are beaten not by men using steroids, but by those who are healthier than the old timers (as we today mostly are compared to our forebears), and who devote more time to the game as their profession, and who have competed all their lives at numerous levels of the sport; are all of those not unfair advantages that they enjoy compared to the turn of the century players, most of whom smoked, drank, and caroused prodigiously...?
if we revere the old timers records, are we also going to require that later players be as unhealthy as the oldsters were, so as to not muddy the waters when it comes to comparing acheivement...?
and Roger Maris/Babe Ruth for the single season record (yes, I know about THAT controversy).’...’
I’ve never understood why that was a controversy; after 154 games, Maris had 59 homers, the same as Ruth in 1921...Ruth also hit 60 homers in that same number of games in 1927, thus Ruth is the champion, regarding those two players...
Baseball is not going to do that. Pete Rose was suspended because he broke Rule 21D:
Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform, shall be declared permanently ineligible.
Rose accepted the punishment for betting as a Club official (manager) with "a duty to perform."
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