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Utica detective suspended, investigation opened after altercation with two men goes viral
WDIV Detroit ClickonDetroit.com ^ | February, 11, 2022 | Jason Colthorp

Posted on 02/11/2022 6:33:49 AM PST by David Chase

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To: dragnet2

Good call! I bet you’re right.


41 posted on 02/11/2022 10:22:10 AM PST by David Chase
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To: JimRed
Get the guy with the camera first, THEN take care of business. Self preservation.

So basically abuse the guy that "disrespected your authoritah" once the camera is destroyed? Doesn't sound like you're in favor of Natural Rights.

42 posted on 02/11/2022 11:12:16 AM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: JimRed

Clarification…..what the cops can get away with. Which is t much


43 posted on 02/11/2022 11:17:21 AM PST by qaz123
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To: wastedyears

Nope. Natural rights are just fine with me. Just showing where the attitude comes from. Your picture released could endanger yourself or your family. Especially carefully edited videos that alter the appearance of a situation.

I am in favor of police vehicle and body cameras, but don’t necessarily trust stuff from the general public.


44 posted on 02/11/2022 11:27:19 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed
I am in favor of police vehicle and body cameras, but don’t necessarily trust stuff from the general public.

Stuff? What does that mean? If you're referring to the cameras there would be no difference between of an incident videoed by the cops or from the general public. Except when the cop's video gets omitted, erased, and or they'll tell you their video was inoperative. Btw, it's real easy to determine if a video has been altered/edited etc and there are crimes against tampering with evidence.

Btw, based on his reaction, this cop has no business being a cop.

45 posted on 02/11/2022 11:42:30 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: David Chase
In small communities if the Detective is in the area or not busy they’ll respond.

Not busy? With crime rates what they are it's hard to believe even small town detectives don't have anything to do. No unsolved cases? No pending investigations? Or did he go out of his way to insert himself into this minor incident?

And there were multiple other cops on scene. In fact, officer tough guy handled the situation all wrong, and only escalated the incident. To bad officer tough guy doesn't know the law/Constitution.

46 posted on 02/11/2022 11:52:34 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: David Chase

my father was a police officer for 34 years...

today’s police officers don’t adhere to the “protect and serve” mindset like yesteryear...

and the pro wrestler look combined with the shift on the fly attitudes indicates performance enhancing drugs may be part of the problem...


47 posted on 02/11/2022 11:58:23 AM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: David Chase

One other thing, look closely at the video near the beginning. When officer heavy badge is speaking with the uniformed cops, officer tough guy turns his attention to the person taking the video and the uniformed officer can be seen grabbing and pulling back on officer tough guys jacket....

That tells me officer tough guy has a history.


48 posted on 02/11/2022 12:05:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: David Chase

One last thing, officer tough guy is probably the most unprofessional cop I’ve seen in a long time.


49 posted on 02/11/2022 12:18:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Btw, it's real easy to determine if a video has been altered/edited etc and there are crimes against tampering with evidence.

I'm not talking about evidence; I mean the vids that CNN and MSNBC repeat continuously without bothering to verify the editing, or worse, those they edit. The ones they use to rile up the usual suspects and create riots.

50 posted on 02/11/2022 1:17:13 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed
mean the vids that CNN and MSNBC repeat continuously

But you were talking about, "Stuff from the general public".

51 posted on 02/11/2022 2:31:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: wastedyears
This is a great YouTube channel that goes over police interactions.

WFIW, I've watched many of his videos over the past couple of weeks and those are legitimate LEO's vs. citizens and the abuses of the LEO's.

I have no problem with that You Tuber profiting from his videos which analyze step by step the abuses of the LEO's and the ultimate outcome of those encounters. .

The problem I have is with the two guys who are subject of this thread, so called "Auditors".

As I mentioned above, the sole purpose of these YouTubers is to seek out and engage LEO's and attempt to provoke them into violence upon themselves in order to file complaints and ultimately law suits while at the same time posting their videos on their YouTube channels and profit from the subscribers and viewers.

The subject assholes in this video were looking for trouble and they got it. Then they cry foul!

I equate them to the big mouth drunk bully in the bar attempting to intimidate those around him until somebody finally steps up and knocks him out and he turns around and files charges.

FWIW, I've had many interactions with members of the Utica police department and they are all decent guys........

52 posted on 02/11/2022 3:30:03 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: JimRed
A fact so obvious that even an atheist (objectivist) can understand.

I, too, am an Ayn Rand fan.

53 posted on 02/11/2022 6:12:36 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Who is Ray Epps?)
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To: qaz123

Photography from public is legal unless otherwise restricted like in a courtroom.

Constitutional rights restrict government not the people.

Too many LEO don’t know what constitutes Constitutional rights.

Educating LEO on Constitutional rights is a good thing.


54 posted on 02/11/2022 6:21:59 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: wastedyears

“A civil rights lawyer is gonna have a field day with that.”

The taxpayers of the City of Utica are going to take a hit once the lawyer makes his case.


55 posted on 02/11/2022 6:24:07 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: qaz123
Guy left a few minutes later.

We need more cops like that, and fewer who think that they are endowed with a special authority that allows them to throw Br’er Rabbit so far into the briar patch that they win the confrontation.

56 posted on 02/11/2022 7:22:18 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: Rebelbase
Go after their bonds.
57 posted on 02/11/2022 10:50:10 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: dragnet2
But you were talking about, "Stuff from the general public".

Yes, which gets into the hands of CNN and MSNBC, before or after some creative editing.

58 posted on 02/12/2022 7:38:41 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

Look, you’re never going to get the truth from those these news sources you mentioned. They lie and they deceive. They’ll edit what they show ya and there is nothing anyone can do about it. And much of what is provided to the lying media, is evidence and or will be used as evidence in court proceedings. So generally they won’t alter it as they risk getting caught, but they will edit or omit what ya see and there is nothing to stop them from doing that. That’s why people capable of critical thought, do not watch those news sources. Their ratings are in the hole for good reason.


59 posted on 02/12/2022 9:34:58 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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