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Opposition mounts to $4.7B plan to widen the highway to the Holland Tunnel
NJ.com ^ | January 16, 2022 | Larry Higgs

Posted on 03/08/2022 7:51:42 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jersey City officials and a coalition of Hudson County bike groups have opposed the New Jersey Turnpike Authority’s plans to widen the Hudson County extension through Bayonne and Jersey City to the Holland Tunnel and replace the aging Newark Bay bridge.

The opposition is based on concerns the project won’t alleviate congestion and would create more traffic and air pollution from vehicles cutting through Bayonne and Jersey City neighborhoods when traffic backs up on the extension.

Bike advocates have a powerful ally, Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop, who had a letter sent on the city’s behalf, asking the Turnpike Authority to consider alternatives to widening because of concerns that the project would adversely affect the city’s residents.

“Based on the inclusion of additional travel lanes and anticipated impact on our local communities, Jersey City cannot support these projects as currently conceptualized,” wrote Barkha R. Patel, assistant city business administrator. “Please consider a reconstruction and modernization plan that maintains the existing number of travel lanes.”

The proposed $4.7 billion project would widen the roadway and replace the Turnpike extension’s elevated structures in three phases. The first would widen the extension to four lanes in both directions with shoulders between Turnpike exit 14 in Newark and 14A in Bayonne. That includes replacing the Newark Bay Bridge that was opened in April 5, 1956, which is two lanes wide in each direction.

The second phase replaces the two lane highway and bridges with a three lane road in both directions, plus shoulders, between Exit 14A in Bayonne and the Columbus Drive exit in Jersey City.

The third phase replaces the elevated structures from Columbus Drive to Jersey Avenue that soar over downtown Jersey City that will keep the current two lanes in each direction and include standard sized shoulders.

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1 posted on 03/08/2022 7:51:42 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: BobL; sphinx; GreenLanternCorps; oldvirginian; Haiku Guy; napscoordinator; ConservativeInPA; ...

PING!


2 posted on 03/08/2022 7:53:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bike advocates have a powerful ally, Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop,


3 posted on 03/08/2022 7:55:17 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The tunnel is the bottleneck. Widening the approach roads is of little use, you’ll still be waiting in traffic while the tunnel is full.


4 posted on 03/08/2022 7:55:57 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

I agree, but hw do you widen a tunnel without snarling traffic also?


5 posted on 03/08/2022 8:01:10 PM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: wbarmy

Build a new one?


6 posted on 03/08/2022 8:04:02 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: proxy_user
The tunnel is the bottleneck. Widening the approach roads is of little use, you’ll still be waiting in traffic while the tunnel is full.

True. The tunnel is a bottleneck but the real bottlenecks are the traffic signals in Manhattan. Drivers come out of the tunnel right into city traffic.

7 posted on 03/08/2022 8:05:30 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

Actually, if you bear hard right coming out of the tunnel there is usually little traffic getting onto the West Side Highway. I have done this on a Sunday afternoon.

However, I agree most people try to go the other way, and get stuck.


8 posted on 03/08/2022 8:13:41 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Jane Long

In NJ??? Big DIG 2, here we come.


9 posted on 03/08/2022 8:18:17 PM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: wbarmy

What’s YOUR solution?

I’m spitballing, trying to answer YOUR question :-)


10 posted on 03/08/2022 8:19:46 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Jane Long

My only solution to NJ was to move out. Now I am in Virginia. But my boys were born in Edison and Staten Island.


11 posted on 03/08/2022 8:38:24 PM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

More payola.


12 posted on 03/08/2022 8:55:25 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
One way to avoid the traffic -


13 posted on 03/09/2022 2:02:03 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Libloather

The price of gasoline not a factor?


14 posted on 03/09/2022 2:29:57 AM PST by Does so (Americans had no desire for war between 1939 and 1941. Rheinland? Sometimes War Finds YOU!)
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To: proxy_user

About a half-mile or so before the tunnel entrance, you can pull off the highway and scoot through town to the tunnel toll booths.


15 posted on 03/09/2022 2:32:34 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.

Ooops, scratch that. I was thinking of the Lincoln Tunnel.

For the Holland, I suggest you take the PATH trains from the Jersey side.


16 posted on 03/09/2022 2:33:59 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: Libloather
Ah, those were the days...


17 posted on 03/09/2022 3:00:49 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It would be fine if it’s widened on the way OUT of the city.

Unless they widen the tunnel, not much to do on the inbound.


18 posted on 03/09/2022 3:15:49 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe I’m missing something, but if you take more traffic lanes to the Holland Tunnel without adding lanes to the tunnel itself, what is accomplished?

In any case, the days of the ‘working in the city’ are quickly coming to a close, so what’s the point here - spend the money on local roads, Interstates, and other highways instead.


19 posted on 03/09/2022 5:07:38 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

To their credit, the turnpike authority will be tapering the highway as it approaches the tunnel: 8 lanes from I-95 to NJ 440, then 6 lanes to the Christopher Columbus avenue exit, and 4 lanes over the viaducts leading to the tunnel entrance.


20 posted on 03/09/2022 11:05:35 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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