Ukraine Worked With Democrats Against Trump in 2016 to Stop Putin. The Bet Backfired Badly.

Realclearinvestigations.com ^ | March 10, 2022 | Paul Sperry

[MAGAthon]

the latter part of the second of Oliver Stone’s Ukraine docos - Revealing Ukraine - has much to say on this topic:

Revealing Ukraine
https://rumble.com/vwy6pm-revealing-ukraine.html

Ukraine on Fire
https://rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html

[SpeedyInTexas]

“You should probably ping those guys when referring to them. Just in case they want to respond.”

They are known trolls.

[MAGAthon]

DS in the mix, of course:

14 Jan 2022: Yahoo: CIA-trained Ukrainian paramilitaries may take central role if Russia invades
by Zach Dorfman, National Security Correspondent
(Zach Dorfman is a former Senior Staff Writer at the Aspen Institute’s Cyber and Technology program and a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs)
The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials.
The CIA-trained forces could soon play a critical role on Ukraine’s eastern border, where Russian troops have massed in what many fear is preparation for an invasion...

While the covert program, run by paramilitaries working for the CIA’s Ground Branch — now officially known as Ground Department — was established by the Obama administration after Russia’s invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014, and expanded under the Trump administration, the Biden administration has further augmented it, said a former senior intelligence official in touch with colleagues in government.
By 2015, as part of this expanded anti-Russia effort, CIA Ground Branch paramilitaries also started traveling to the front in eastern Ukraine to advise their counterparts there, according to a half-dozen former officials...

One person familiar with the program put it more bluntly. “The United States is training an insurgency,” said a former CIA official, adding that the program has taught the Ukrainians how “to kill Russians.”...

“If the Russians invade, those [graduates of the CIA programs] are going to be your militia, your insurgent leaders,” said the former senior intelligence official. “We’ve been training these guys now for eight years. They’re really good fighters. That’s where the agency’s program could have a serious impact.”...
“It has helped “turn the tide,” said the first former CIA official, who said he or she was briefed that “gains were being made on the battlefield” as a “direct result” of the program...

If the Russians launch a new invasion, “there’s going to be people who make their life miserable,” said the former senior intelligence official. The CIA-trained paramilitaries “will organize the resistance” using the specialized training they’ve received.
“All that stuff that happened to us in Afghanistan,” said the former senior intelligence official, “they can expect to see that in spades with these guys.”
https://news.yahoo.com/cia-trained-ukrainian-paramilitaries-may-take-central-role-if-russia-invades-185258008.html

25 Feb: Yahoo: How the U.S. helped Ukraine prepare for a Russian invasion
by Zach Dorfman and Jana Winter
The support has included billions of dollars in military aid; enhanced intelligence sharing between the CIA, the National Security Agency and Ukrainian spy agencies; anti-corruption assistance; and enhanced cybersecurity coordination.

As Yahoo News reported in January, the CIA has also conducted paramilitary training for Ukrainian special operations forces at a facility in the Southern U.S. as part of a secret program that began in 2015, and has sent agency paramilitaries to the front in eastern Ukraine to advise their counterparts there...

In addition to cybersecurity help, the U.S. has provided advanced military training to elite Ukrainian military and special operations units. A small contingent of U.S. special operations and other military personnel were based in Ukraine to train their counterparts there, though they were were recently evacuated by the Pentagon because of the looming threat of a Russian invasion.

The CIA has also provided secret training to Ukrainian security officials. In 2015, the agency began sending a small cohort of paramilitary officers to the eastern front to help advise Ukrainian forces there, former U.S. intelligence officials told Yahoo News.

One area where U.S. paramilitary trainers have been focused on helping shore up defenses against a Russian strike or occupation is the Ukrainian city of Mariupol, according to a former CIA executive...
There is widespread expectation that the new Russian offensive will seek to wrest the city, which is strategically located on the Sea of Azov, from Ukrainian control...

The U.S. has also provided over $2.7 billion in military aid to Ukraine since 2014, according to the State Department, “to help Ukraine preserve its territorial integrity, secure its borders, and improve interoperability with NATO.”
https://news.yahoo.com/how-the-us-helped-ukraine-prepare-for-a-russian-invasion-210407079.html

[SpeedyInTexas]

Convert your rubles into dollars yet?

[McGavin999]

I’ve wondered about that. Poroshenko is the guy telling Biden he will fire the prosecutor looking into Burisma corruption. Zelensky is the guy who was elected in May of 19 and is the one Trump called to congratulate and asked him to look into corruption. When the Dems brought impeachment charges against Trump Zelensky told them it was an innocent call.

[dragnet2]

I don’t need to read the article.

So without reading the report you're suggesting it's all lies?

[MAGAthon]

re Jana Winter who wrote the second Yahoo piece with Dorfman:

Jana Winter is an investigative journalist based in Washington, D.C. She was a 2018-2019 Spotlight fellow at The Boston Globe, and prior to that, a contributing writer at Foreign Policy.

[eyedigress]

Well, you have been here for 5.5 years.

You don’t mind if someone takes a look at the biolabs do you?

[Long Jon No Silver]

How comforting. Worked out well in Vietnam /s

[Paladin2]

Ukraine is a Klaus Schwab/Victoria Neuland Satellite.

Putin still needs to stay home.

[escapefromboston]

The Cunning of Reason.

[frnewsjunkie]

Ukraine worked with biden on other things also
....biden got lots of money from them.

The reason Ukraine doesn’t get the help they’d like...corrupt gov..
People suffer.

[cowboyusa]

Your pushing it.

[daniel1212]

The war is against power-hungry dictator Putin, the wannabe conqueror the West, and oppressor of Christians, as well as against the corruption of Ukraine which sadly has been an issue, but needs to be free from its Russian corruption to do better.

There is no question that corruption is prevalent. The 2018 Transparency International corruption index ranks Ukraine 120 out of 180 countries. The 2019-2024 USAID Country Development Cooperation Strategy for Ukraine categorizes Ukraine as the most corrupt country in Europe and sets anti-corruption as one of four strategic objectives for its assistance programs for Ukraine. However, there has been improvement, with its CPI (Corruption Perception Index) score improving from 27 in 2015 to 32 in 2018. - https://www.brookings.edu/blog/future-development/2019/10/31/fighting-corruption-in-ukraine-usaids-strategy/

[lizma2]

“I feel sorry for the people of Ukraine, but its government is a dangerous cancer, injected into the US body-politic by the DNC, the Obama Administration, and the “deep state.”

Me too. My family went through the Bolshevik Revolution and the Holodomor.

The planet needs a wake up call.

[dfwgator]

The planet needs an enema.

[DesertRhino]

“and what I see are Russians bombing hospitals, breweries, schools, shoe factories, and many homes in urban areas.”

And in 1915 British people saw Germans catching babies on bayonets.
In 1990, We saw an innocent young girl testify that Iraqi soldiers were throwing babies from incubators.
We saw Powell tell us all about WMDs.
People in 1898 saw the Spanish had sunk the USS Maine.

Be a little more suspicious of what you see. Because what is what is being presented to you is the result of careful curation.

I have also watched Luke Skywalker blow up the death star.

[foundedonpurpose]

Sure Zelelnski won the election, sure he did. Right along with all of his actor friends.

[McGavin999]

What are you saying? Did Russia hack their election? If they did it’s the dumbest move they ever made.

[McGruff]

You’re not contributing to the IQ level of this website with your Russian trolls rants.