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1 posted on 07/05/2022 10:30:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The author’s old college economics professor had an expression about the car business and the national economy. He called it the best barometer for a recession. He may turn out to be right again.


2 posted on 07/05/2022 10:34:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Most car buyers simply do not want EVs or even hybrids. GM, Ford and VW have made huge capital investments that simply will never turn a profit and will be a constant drag.


3 posted on 07/05/2022 10:38:04 AM PDT by allendale
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Every time I take my cars to the Toyota dealer for servicing, they want to buy them. My wife's 2014 Sienna, and my 2015 Tacoma, both paid off, and each with less that 60k on the odometer. I'd be a fool to get rid of these excellent vehicles just to take on car payments.

No thanks.

4 posted on 07/05/2022 10:38:29 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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$47K is just the price, with interest it is a small mortgage. I bought a new truck in 2021 with interest it came to $42K. Used trucks were damn near just as expensive. The payments were only around $100 less per month w/limited warranty. Anything built in the last 10 years suffers from that other Asian disease “Chinese shite fails”. Get a good warranty. I live in a big truck area. We have a lot of bikers, trucks and muscle car owners. Of course we have plenty of “men” driving those gender fluid vehicles.


6 posted on 07/05/2022 10:41:39 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me)
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The average monthly payment on a new car loan was almost $700 in June, up 13% from a year ago, researcher J.D. Power reports.

Not so long ago, you could rent a really nice 2-bedroom apartment for that kind of money.


7 posted on 07/05/2022 10:42:26 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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What ‘new’ cars?

All the dealers here have empty lots except for some high priced trucks and SUV’s.

Not a car to be seen on the Chevy or Ford dealerships, or the Toyota, Mazda, and Hyundai stores........................


8 posted on 07/05/2022 10:42:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Let them keep all this cr*p up and David French and Jonah Goldberg and Allahpundit will be personally dragging Trump back to the WH.


10 posted on 07/05/2022 10:43:20 AM PDT by jocon307 (No Dems win - Nov 22)
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I have managed new car dealerships since 1991. A 20% decrease in sales, but instead of $4-5000 in rebates, there are none to $500 max. In a normal year, F150s in July would have $6500 in rebates, currently 0. I’ve been having sold orders come in that were ordered in January, the list price has gone up over $3000, the manufacturers can overcome a 20% decrease.

Ford’s only issue is that they lost 5 billion on their investment in Rivian (electric) which is bein pushed by the government.


11 posted on 07/05/2022 10:44:01 AM PDT by allwrong57
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Must have had a deadline. Can’t sell cars you don’t have.


12 posted on 07/05/2022 10:44:20 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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What new cars? Toyota is at Zero inventory of new cars and announced that it will miss every delivery date in 2022.


13 posted on 07/05/2022 10:46:13 AM PDT by EC Washington
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There are about 275 million vehicles registered in the US, up 25 million in the last decade.

A reduces new vehicle sales rate is unlikely to cause any significant shortage over a few year period.


14 posted on 07/05/2022 10:47:22 AM PDT by FarCenter
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All in all, will these massive used car prices result in raised blue book numbers ? Will my auto insurance policy pay me what it take to replace my vehicle should it become totaled ?


15 posted on 07/05/2022 10:47:48 AM PDT by George from New England
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The average monthly payment on a new car loan was almost $700 in June, up 13% from a year ago, researcher J.D. Power reports.

That's our monthly bills. Land payment, phone/internet, electric, food and gasoline

Most I've ever paid for a vehicle was $3,000.00 which was a 30mpg car. Bought in Feb 2021 because I knew we'd have obama gas prices again since the same people were going to be running the show behind the scenes.

17 posted on 07/05/2022 10:48:16 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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Again no chip shortage when it comes to EVs:-)


27 posted on 07/05/2022 10:54:58 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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Economic guy I follow over on YouTube is saying to hold off if you can on any car or home purchases right now. Look to the 4th quarter to great pricing on these assets.


31 posted on 07/05/2022 10:56:24 AM PDT by EBH (Let God Sort Them Out. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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Geely has a 15K electric that would sell well here in the US.
Available in OZ and Newzy.

75K for a truck?
45K for an SUV?
25K for a Corolla?

Sorry, I’m not that stupid.


33 posted on 07/05/2022 10:56:56 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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Prices are not dropping in my area.

I frequently see online ‘deals’ with Internet prices higher than the MSRPs printed in the ads. I thought initially thought they were a webmaster errors, but I have seen them multiple times on different vehicle websites.

I frequently get letters from local Ford dealer claiming my 2018 (bought new) is now worth more than what I paid for it.


35 posted on 07/05/2022 10:58:33 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Local dealer is demanding extra profit margins over and above regular sticker prices. 10,000 on boring cars to over $50.000 on a hotter model.

We walked out.


38 posted on 07/05/2022 11:02:07 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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What new cars? I haven’t seen any to speak of.


40 posted on 07/05/2022 11:04:11 AM PDT by Howie66 (Let's Go Brandon!!)
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I was looking at a 2002 low miles dodge pick up, in great shape, but when I did the simple math of filling up the tank I just about ran off the lot.


46 posted on 07/05/2022 11:13:50 AM PDT by The Louiswu (We couldn't 'afford' $4 billion for Trump's wall at the southern border?)
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