Online (imperfect) poll of FReepers by Daniel1212-please take part [go to link). I think this (non-commercial, internal) poll can help discern the make up of conservatives here

Strawpoll.com ^ | Oct. 8 , 2022 | Daniel1212

[daniel1212]

LINK:

1. Do you consider yourself to be Agnostic?

2. Atheist?

3. Catholic or Orthodox?

4. Evangelical Christian?

5. Jewish?

6. Mainline Protestant?

7. Are you male?

8. Are you female?

9. White, non-Hispanic?

10. Hispanic?

11. Black?

12. If a Catholic, do you consider Jorge Mario Bergoglio to be the valid pope?

13. Do you consider yourself mainly to be a social conservative, whose main (not singular) concern is the moral condition and direction of this country

14. Do you consider yourself mainly to be a libertarian and or financial conservative

15. Do you strongly favor US support of the state of Israel and its overall defensive actions against Islamic/Palestinian demands, rather than Israel being the real problem?

16. Do you mainly or strongly support Putin (if not all he does) in the war in Ukraine and opposing NATO, or Ukraine (if not all it does)?

17. Do you support the violent actions of Jan. 6?

18. Do you oppose the legalization of same-sex marriage, and requiring all states to validate the same?

19. Do you oppose the legalization of abortion in most cases?

20. Do you oppose government funding for prophylactics drugs to help prevent HIV (and foster sodomy)?

21. Do you oppose government funding for birth control as well as abortion services in general

22. Do you personally practice or believe in contraception?

Did you answer Yes to questions #15-22 as a social conservative?

Did you answer Yes to questions #15-22 as a libertarian and or financial conservativ?

Do you support reducing the national debt thru reduction in government bureaucracy and social welfare programs? Yes[] No[]

Do you support a stronger military? Yes[] No[]

Do you support stricter restrictions on immigration Yes[] No[] Do you support less regulation of industry? Yes[] No[]

Do you believe or strongly suspect 2020 voter fraud in the Presidential election was enough to change the outcome? Yes[] No[]

Do you plan to vote for President Trump if he runs in 2024, or would you possibly vote for a candidate such as Ron Desantis, Ted Cruz, Mike Pompeo, Nikki Haley... Yes[] No[]

Do you believe unprecedented (in civilization's history) Climate Change toward a dangerously warmer planet is real? Yes[] No[]

Do you expect to spend eternity with God/Jesus in Heaven as one saved by obedient faith, or in Hell, or just the grave.. Yes[] No[]

Do you expect to spend eternity with God/Jesus in Heaven as one who is good enough to be with God?Yes[] No[]

[daniel1212]

Yes, it is unclear.

[Freedom56v2]

Interesting.

Thank you for the explanation.

[Openurmind]

The only question I have is this. Are you going to judge me with it?

[daniel1212]

"The only question I have is this. Are you going to judge me with it?"

? How am I going to judge you or anyone with it since it is strictly anonymous? I do not know who takes the poll or how this answer, and I am not not affiliated at all with whoever hosts this free, no-registration required poll (the easiest one I found) and have no access to even to an ip address. Another poster asserted I was doing this to promote my blog (not even listed) for money. Strange suspicions but the recent news of persecution by gov. may help explain it.

[Openurmind]

Will it help our mutual cause to take the poll?

[thesearethetimes...]

Mark

[daniel1212]

" Will it help our mutual cause to take the poll? "

It certainly should help, if the poll helped to show the rough make up of each type of conservatives and the basis for each, and thus better know the cause for divisions, which seem to have become more pronounced. However, the poll itself helped little.

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "(which is all that was first asked) as well as no to "the militant actions of Jan. 6 against protesters or any by them.""

daniel1212. I want to make sure i got this right.
Have you stopped beating your wife?

It's a question you can't answer. Either way you're incriminating yourself.

[daniel1212]

It's a question you can't answer. Either way you're incriminating yourself. Actually, no means being against violence by either, vs. for such by any.

[SoConPubbie]

Thank you for additional helpful info. So your answer is no (blank), that you do not support the violent actions of Jan. 6 (which is all that was first asked) as well as no to "the militant actions of Jan. 6 against protesters or any by them."

GIVE ME A BREAK!

Whose violent actions are you referring to on Jan. 6th?

1. The very few actually committed by Trump supporters?
2. The many committed by Antifa?
3. The Deadly actions committed by the Capital Police?

Your question, as worded, is the height of Misleading.

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, " Either way you're incriminating yourself"
Then you're implying that you used to beat your wife?
IE: you're implying some Trump supporters where violent.
To this day I have not seen any Trump supporters that were violent. There was one guy that accidentally knocked down a small female cop then proceeded to help her up. he got 3 years in prison for that.

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "Thank you for additional helpful info. So your answer is no (blank)"

Do not answer questions for me. I'm saying it's a loaded question which incriminates me either way. To be clear you're slandering me here.

[magyar]

Question is poorly worded....not worth my time to complete the poll.

[daniel1212]

Do not answer questions for me. I'm saying it's a loaded question which incriminates me either way. To be clear you're slandering me here.

No: it is simply logic. I do not know your answer, but only what a yes or no answer basically means to the basic question. Yet too many see this poll as a personal interrogation.

[daniel1212]

First, what is FRAND

Context is king: Response was to "FR is an undisciplined thinktank" by a friendly poster. RAND is a well-known thinktank, thus FRAND was a tongue-in-cheek reference to a conservative thinktank.

and why are you using new-age psychobabble on us?

Who is "us?" Do you represent the poster I was responding to, much less all of FR? As for psychobabble, by your measure all sorts of phrases could have been called "psychobabble" by certain persons outside the context in which it was first used, including "FReeper."

Second, this is where "here" went and we can all now see that this is a troll to validate your own petty confirmation bias.

Meaning in your bias you do not like the answers to your demands, "Why do you want to “discern the makeup of conservatives here?,” "What are you intending to do with the results?" "Who has access to the results?"

Seeing as there was nothing to fear, I should thus leave you to your baseless unwarranted suspicion.

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "Yet too many see this poll as a personal interrogation."

Because it is.

[daniel1212]

Because it is.

Seriously, how can an anonymous poll be personal interrogation?

[Steve Van Doorn]

Complex or Loaded Question Fallacy | Middle and High School Homeschooling Logic/Argument video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ3-pqnE0oA

[higgmeister]

As for psychobabble, by your measure all sorts of phrases could have been called "psychobabble" by certain persons outside the context in which it was first used, including "FReeper."

Actually, Psychobabble is jargon used in popular psychology.

FReeper is not a term used in psychology.

But, back in the 1970's when I was in the USAF as a telecommunications troubleshooter, our shop was always adjoining the cryptography technicians.   We were trained to use "a short talk", our own jargon, mixed with Q & Z signal codes for brevity and clarity.

We called the people in every group we interacted with "peeps" so of course the Crypto peeps were soon shortened to CReeps.   No they didn't like that one bit.

But I took to the words FReeper and FReeps like they were old FRiends.

[Steve Van Doorn]

To be clear you're asking three different questions in one.
As SoConPubbie made it very clear
Whose violent actions are you referring to on Jan. 6th?
1. The very few actually committed by Trump supporters?
2. The many committed by Antifa?
3. The Deadly actions committed by the Capital Police?


If you brake the question up i can answer.
1. I haven't seen any violent actions by Trump Supporters. As it's hard to tell who the Trump supporters are vs the bad actors. Other then who are being prosecuted.
2. Yes those actions committed by bad operatives where very violent and should be prosecuted. Though very few of them have been or has been let off lightly.
3. Yes the murders committed by capital police should be investigated and prosecuted.

January 6 as I pointed out in my post 31 which is analogous to the Reichstag fire which they had a coup d'état and blamed it on the communist. The real coup took place on January 3 2020
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4099185/replies?c=31