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Rick Rubin Shares Story Behind Johnny Cash Covering Nine Inch Nails’ ‘Hurt’
Udiscovermusic ^ | October 27, 2022 | Sam Armstrong

Posted on 10/27/2022 3:21:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The song appeared on Cash’s 2002 album, ‘American IV: The Man Comes Around.’

Rick Rubin was interviewed on October 23 by Lauren Larverne for BBC Radio’s “Desert Island Discs” show, and during their chat he revealed how he got Johnny Cash to record Nine Inch Nails’ “Hurt” for his 2002 farewell album, American IV: The Man Comes Around.

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According to Rubin, when he first suggested the cover, “Johnny looked at me like I was insane.” He adds, “The Nine Inch Nails version of the song is very noisy, aggressive. Johnny was wary,” Rubin said, though Cash would agree in the end. “I think I did a demo where I had a guitar player play it, and I said the words the way I imagined [Johnny] saying it, and then when he heard the lyrics, and he heard the format of what it could be, he said, ‘Let’s try it.’”

Later in the conversation, Rubin adds, “I thought of the image of Johnny Cash as the mythical Man in Black, and any song he sang had to suit this mythical Man in Black. And one of the ones that seemed to have resonated with people after we did it was ‘Hurt.’ If you listen to the words, it’s like looking back over a life of regret and remorse.”

For his part, Nine Inch Nails’ Trent Reznor was also as skeptical of the ideas as Johnny Cash was. He recounted the tale to Alternative Press in 2004. “Rick Rubin has been a friend for a long time, and he called me asking how I felt about Johnny covering ‘Hurt.’ I was flattered, but frankly, the idea sounded a bit gimmicky to me. … A few weeks later, a CD shows up with the track. … It sounded… weird to me. That song in particular was straight from my soul, and it felt very strange hearing the highly identifiable voice of Johnny Cash singing it.” Once Reznor saw the video, however, he was convinced of the new version’s power.


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To: nickcarraway

The Pointer Sister’s also gave him a #2 with Fire, the song he wrote for Elvis Presley.

Yeah, but Elmer Fudd made it his own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vT-VaMXsAw


21 posted on 10/27/2022 4:00:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway

Reminds me of the needle and the damage done. -Young.

5.56mm


22 posted on 10/27/2022 4:08:03 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go)
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To: nickcarraway

Extremely powerful video.


23 posted on 10/27/2022 4:14:25 PM PDT by sauropod (The New York Times' 1619 Project's Nikole Hannah-Jones: "all journalism is activism.")
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To: nickcarraway

What VM song was it a ripoff of?

Saw Van in San Diego last year. He put on a great show.


24 posted on 10/27/2022 4:17:58 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: nickcarraway

Which Van song?


25 posted on 10/27/2022 4:19:02 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ( The problem today: people are more concerned about feelings than responsibility)
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To: Jonty30
Singer-Songwriter Guy Clark at a concert was asked to sing “Heart-broke” a song he wrote and Ricky Skaggs turned into a hit (with slightly modified lyrics).

Clark then said: ‘ I don’t do that song any more since that other guy ruined it. But I sure did like cashing those royalty checks.

26 posted on 10/27/2022 4:25:35 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ( The problem today: people are more concerned about feelings than responsibility)
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To: nickcarraway

A young 20-something reacts and is overcome with emotion

Johnny Cash “Hurt” REACTION & ANALYSIS by Vocal Coach/Opera Singer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B2zFAHS628


27 posted on 10/27/2022 4:40:14 PM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: Hammerhead

I vehemently disagree, Trent Reznor is one of the most diverse rocker/musicians that I have seen in my 60 plus years . Been into music since 6th grade...that would be around 1971/1972...Trent is all over the different genre’s and tours constantly....his money was made a long time ago ...he works because he enjoys it and has total control just as he did on pretty hate Machine(first album he did everything.)


28 posted on 10/27/2022 4:47:27 PM PDT by mythenjoseph
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To: ETCM
One song that I believe was covered better, than by the original artist is Fields of Gold. Written and performed by Sting, then upstaged by Eva Cassidy, when no one knew of her. Michelle Kwan then using her song in the 2002 Olympics ... simply excellent.

Eva Cassidy - Fields of Gold

Sting - Fields of Gold

Michelle Kwan Figure Skating at the Salt Lake City Olympics

Fantastic choreography. And to think that she didn't win the gold medal ...

29 posted on 10/27/2022 4:49:14 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: texas booster

Great cover. Sting just doesn’t capture the emotion of the song, while Eva’s beautiful voice does. It’s a completely different experience.


30 posted on 10/27/2022 4:56:35 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: alstewartfan

I miss Lynyrd Skynrd and Joplin.


31 posted on 10/27/2022 5:08:40 PM PDT by cnsmom
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To: ETCM

I also like Manfred Mann’s cover of “I Came For You,” which I believe is also written by Springsteen.


32 posted on 10/27/2022 5:13:05 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: nickcarraway

I didn’t like it that much

Though it was powerful it felt exploitative

Speaking of which

The left exploits Cash like they own him

And not per his wishes I don’t think

I live here

East Nashville and Sylvan park

Leftists nests here for years sported Cash black bumper stickers after his death

Prine too

Waylon …,not so much

Country music execs and management now is mostly lefties

The worm has turned


33 posted on 10/27/2022 5:16:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic now home to more than a few globalists who really love the mainstream media )
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To: newfreep

Thanks for linking TCV. I love about everything Elizabeth does!


34 posted on 10/27/2022 5:28:56 PM PDT by LexRex in TN ("A republic, if you can keep it.......")
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To: A_perfect_lady

Bruce’s weakness was a lack of creativity in the arrangement of his songs. It was all to simplistic, as a lot of folk music can be. Manfred Mann changed up the arrangement on Bruce’s songs in a way that gave them energy and dimension that was beyond Springsteen’s narrow imagination (and vocal range).


35 posted on 10/27/2022 5:39:42 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: nickcarraway

Can’t be that bad, when your girlfriend cheats on you, she doesn’t ordinarily send you a royalty payment every month. Having Johnny Cash cover a tune you’ve written and published must have been a nice deal!


36 posted on 10/27/2022 5:45:51 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: dfwgator
Pretty Hate Machine, released on TVT Records, a label that released CDs of TV theme songs.

I liked it when I got it, but was a little embarrassed. It seemed a little schlocky and over-wrought at the time. Still, one dude made the whole album.

Saw NIN open for Jesus and Mary Chain at the Georgia Theatre Awesome show.

37 posted on 10/27/2022 5:58:50 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m probably going to write way too much, but for this DMA who’s been pushing classical music for the past 45 years, Johnny Cash’s “Hurt” video has been an exceptionally powerful artwork to me in different times.

First, my father died in 1996. He was an old country junkie: Hank Williams Sr., Conway Twitty, Ed Ames, and of course Cash. In my music studies I went from rock to fusion to jazz to classical to medieval, but avoided country because I didn’t want to be Okie like my dad. But when Cash’s “Hurt” came out in 2002, for the first time in my life I could hear what my father had heard in all those country 45s he had collected; I wanted to tell him, but it was six years too late. Whenever appropriate, I have used the video in my music courses ever since.

The second time was two years ago, when my wife passed away after years of debilitating MS, exacerbated by COVID and ending with liver failure. Driving to the crematorium to obtain her remains, I turned on the radio which landed on a country channel, and they started playing “Hurt.” It got to the lyrics

What have I become, my sweetest friend?
Everyone I know goes away in the end

And I had to pull over from bursting into tears. It was the last time my grief poured out; the grief didn’t go away, but the song had broken the dam and let out the worst.

And then there was...yesterday. I have been attempting to move on with my life, with someone I loved, who said she loved me, and we talked about marriage and being together for the rest of our lives. A few weeks ago, without warning she left and went over 1000 miles away, with a man she had just met the day before, and it has been very painful. Yesterday was when I was preparing for “Hurt” in my course, and once again I heard the lyric

You could have it all, my empire of dirt:
I will let you down, I will make you hurt

And once again it broke the dam. No piece of classical music, no piece of jazz music has ever moved me when I needed moving as this one has.

I wouldn’t have written any of this if the thread hadn’t been posted, but I can say nothing but thank you to Rubin and Cash, for bringing me back to my father, saying goodbye to my wife, and once again working through the pain of betrayal that all people experience because they are people. We come here on FR to try to save our country, to try to keep freedom, but at the same time we have to keep ourselves alive, by living, through happiness and pain, through joy and grief.


38 posted on 10/27/2022 6:28:15 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin

I am sorry about your wife. And I am sorry that other woman did that in such a cruel way. I guess she proved herself unworthy, but it’s still a punch in the gut. That’s why we need art.


39 posted on 10/27/2022 6:46:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Cash’s “God’s Gonna Cut You Down” and “Going By The Book” were poignant also. They have the same impact upon listeners as they grab you with the message.


40 posted on 10/27/2022 7:40:08 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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