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1 posted on 11/12/2022 6:57:36 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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2 posted on 11/12/2022 6:58:01 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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The terms would benefit the cronies, but I don’t see how it would benefit Putin.


3 posted on 11/12/2022 7:02:18 AM PST by Poison Pill
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Who was the last Russian leader who surrendered and stayed in power? Nicolas II in the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-1905 didn’t remain all that long.


5 posted on 11/12/2022 7:05:21 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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Crazy Zeeper Posting to begin the weekend!


6 posted on 11/12/2022 7:05:36 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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7 posted on 11/12/2022 7:06:21 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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Umm no.

I go to 16 Russian social media sites and not a one of them has even remotely indicated or mentioned anything about “surrender terms” let alone any type alleged “peace agreement.”

Even The Duran has not mentioned it, Alexander Mercouris, Alex Christoforou, The New Atlas, iEarlGrey who lives in Russia, Douglas MacGregor, Andrei Martyanov, no mention on RT, no mention on TASS, etc., etc., etc.

Until such is confirmed, it’s a typical UK and DailyMail propaganda being peddled by a propagandist who is so weak and unobjective, they themselves won’t take the time to verify or corroborate such with Russian news outlets, etc.

P R O P A G A N D A ! !


8 posted on 11/12/2022 7:07:35 AM PST by cranked
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> In return, Putin and cronies would avoid war crimes prosecution and remain in power... <

I personally believe that Putin is a war criminal. But this whole article is silly. It would be one thing if Putin were under arrest, and was being held in some EU jail.

But he’s not in some EU jail. He’s in far-away Moscow, or perhaps even further east. So us saying we’ll let Putin remain in power would be like Putin saying he’ll let Charles III remain as king. It’s just silly. Or to be more specific, a silly bluff.


9 posted on 11/12/2022 7:09:47 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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10 posted on 11/12/2022 7:10:05 AM PST by cranked
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Military Operation in Ukraine on November 11, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM9rxI8OFXc


12 posted on 11/12/2022 7:12:49 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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14 posted on 11/12/2022 7:17:19 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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They're not "surrender terms.". Russia's occupation of Crimea does get recognized, they don't give up all of Donbass, Ukraine promises not to apply to NATO for 7 years, the border is demilitarized, etc.. They can spin it as a win by claiming "deNazification" of Ukraine.

To the rest of the world, it will look like Ukraine successfully repulsed a Russian invasion, and the Russian leadership certainly will know that. The Ukrainians certainly can celebrate it as a victory. But the killing would stop, and the Ukrainians could begin rebuilding their country.

I don't think Putin will accept it, but that all depends on the internal Russian power dynamics. Certainly, there are some in the Russian leadership who recognize this war was a huge mistake and want it to be over.

15 posted on 11/12/2022 7:17:56 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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25 posted on 11/12/2022 8:04:56 AM PST by norsky ( <P><img src=" "width=400"></img> <P> <a href= > </a>)
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Throw in letting the oligarchs get their yachts back and they will make the deal and take care of whats his name.


33 posted on 11/12/2022 9:33:11 AM PST by Cold Heart (Everybody vaxxed was injured, your degree of damage and timing may differ)
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https://sonar21.com/would-the-soviet-union-be-able-to-defeat-the-nazis-in-world-war-ii-if-social-media-existed/

As I noted earlier, the West is heavily invested in the belief that winning the information war will translate into battlefield success for Ukraine. Yet, we have seen how the “success” of the U.S. information wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria have turned out. Money pits that have swallowed trillions of U.S. tax payer dollars with no actual success on the ground, where it counts.

Both of these cataclysmic wars — the Civil War and World War II — are relevant to the carnage unfolding in Ukraine. The facts are very simple:

Fact one — Ukraine’s economy is in tatters and there is no viable path to restore what it was on February 24, 2022.
Fact two — Ukraine is totally dependent on Western aid to keep it army in the field.
Fact three — Ukraine does not have a viable air force and cannot provide close air support to its front line troops. This means any Ukrainian advance on the ground is dependent on the limited armor and artillery units still intact.
Fact four — Ukraine’s ability to produce electricity and power is being steadily degraded and there is no short-term solution to keep the lights on.
Fact five — Russia has not committed its front line forces and high tech weaponry to the fight.
Fact six — Russia’s economy is strong despite Western efforts to sunder it.
Fact seven — Russia is economically self-sufficient. It does not need foreign exports to sustain its industrial base but the world does need critical products and minerals that only Russia produces.
Fact eight — Russian factories are operating 24/7, producing essential military equipment and technology to keep its forces in the fight.
Fact nine — Russia can mobilize and train new troops on its own territory without fear of attack from Ukraine. Ukraine cannot.

The United States and NATO are deluded. They are wielding power like the mean girls in high school, i.e. they are shunning Putin and won’t let him sit at their lunch table. They remain convinced that will crush him. What they did not count on is that Putin is building his own cafeteria and will eat the food he wants and a table he controls. In fact, many of the countries in Europe need essential resources that Russia supplies. It is just a matter of time before those girls try to get a seat at Putin’s table.

It is true that Russia relinquished, at least for now, the portion of Kherson that sits to the west of the Dnieper River. But it controls the rest of Kherson to the east of the river. If Ukraine wants Crimea it will have to cross the Dnieper and fight its way to Crimea. Ukraine does not have the military resources to do that; even with the help of the United States and NATO.

34 posted on 11/12/2022 9:36:54 AM PST by Kazan
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38 posted on 11/13/2022 3:07:47 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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