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To: Cathi

“Ritter believes it is because they want this settled before Russia can take Odessa and land lock what is left of Ukraine.”

I’ve been saying that for awhile now, that Ukraine better start negotiating before they lose Odessa. I guess reality is finally setting in with these people.


7 posted on 12/16/2022 6:18:29 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

So how are the Russians going to take Odessa when they couldn’t hold Kherson?


9 posted on 12/16/2022 6:32:13 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: jimwatx
Ukraine better start negotiating before they lose Odessa

And how would that happen? Did the Russians flee from Kherson so they could try swimming from Crimea?

10 posted on 12/16/2022 6:37:21 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: jimwatx

Well when you are losing troops at an unbelievable clip are and still being pushed back farther and farther it can provide some clarity.

Ritter believes that the General’s really bizarre decision to bring up the Finnish General’s defeat speech was Zaluzhny’s attempt to provide an excuse for Ukraine’s defeat. If the West had only given him 300 more tanks, 800 infantry fighting vehicles, 500 fresh guns and more troops he might have had a chance to win.

Another interesting point Ritter made is when you are freezing and fighting under horrible conditions and then find out your wife and kids are freezing, too, it destroys morale. The morale of the Ukrainian troops is very bad right now.


11 posted on 12/16/2022 6:43:41 PM PST by Cathi
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Cuba was lot smarter by backing down during Cuban Missile crisis. Ukraine not so smart. Superpowers do not like neighboring countries joining enemy camp. Ukraine chose a home erotic dancer for their leader. Ukrainians are now paying the price.


12 posted on 12/16/2022 6:51:50 PM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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