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Man ordered to remove ‘Jesus is the only way’ T-shirt at Mall of America
NYP ^ | 1/16/2023 | NYP

Posted on 01/17/2023 5:54:02 AM PST by mikelets456

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Mall of Amerikka


21 posted on 01/17/2023 6:16:48 AM PST by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: TexasGunLover; mikelets456; Alberta's Child

see 12: “public accommodations”

-fJRoberts-


22 posted on 01/17/2023 6:24:36 AM PST by A strike ("The worse, the better."-.Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: mikelets456

These “other shoppers” wouldn’t have names like “Mohammed” or anything, would they?


23 posted on 01/17/2023 6:27:56 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Alberta's Child
Banning a customer from a shopping mall for religious reasons is no different than banning black people from a restaurant.

Now...if he WOULD have been black, whole different enchilada.

24 posted on 01/17/2023 6:29:30 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: HamiltonJay

“... but this report certainly does not come across as ooooo this mall is just out to persecute and discriminate against anyone who displays christian messages on their clothing”
That is exactly how it comes across if ‘security’ knew this guy and on this day decided to confront him.

-fJRoberts-


25 posted on 01/17/2023 6:34:10 AM PST by A strike ("The worse, the better."-.Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: A strike

No it does not.

This is a guy who by his own admission has violated the rules of the mall and been removed for proselytizing before.

He didn’t get “singled out” as some random person who walked into the mall with a Jesus Saves shirt, but as a known individual who has repeatedly broken the rules of the mall.

Just like if someone has been caught attempting to shoplift multiple times before and removed, and showed up again, and security confronted them.

Neither of these cases are situations of a random individual.

The knee jerk click bait headline is complete BS, and is just trying to get emotional reactions to make the publishers money from your clicks. Trying to portray this guy, as just an average everyday guy who walked into this mall and was randomly confronted for his shirt. Which is just not the case... but that’s the narrative they want to portray to get a reaction.

Stop being played.


26 posted on 01/17/2023 6:56:24 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: babble-on

I am more surprised any of those complainers can read.


27 posted on 01/17/2023 6:58:03 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: HamiltonJay

I watched part of the video and in that segment the mall cop clearly told the man to remove the T-shirt, with no mention of proselytizing.

If I was walking past and he said something like “Jesus Saves” that would be OK. But I’d have a problem is he followed me down the hall preaching all the way.


28 posted on 01/17/2023 7:05:51 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: babble-on

Apparently freedom of speech offends some people even when it’s the truth.


29 posted on 01/17/2023 7:06:46 AM PST by oldtech
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To: libertylover

Did you read the actual article?

The man, by his own admission has been removed from the property previously for proselytizing, more than once.

You want to ignore the context of this situation, and be played, then by all means, do so, but this is not a situation where john q public was just randomly confronted by security for wearing a pro Jesus T-Shirt.

This was a known individual with a history.

Whether the mall “cops” handled the situation correctly or legally is another issue entirely, but this guy is a known repeated offender at this establishment.

As I said, CONTEXT MATTERS.... this wasn’t just a random person walked into the mall in a Jesus Saves t-shirt and got harassed, this was a case where someone known to violate the rules repeatedly had returned and got confronted.

You buy into this just a random nobody being persecuted you are no different that the fools who bought into those catholic high schoolers somehow harassing that fool indian activist in DC years ago.


30 posted on 01/17/2023 7:13:35 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Ok, so what are “ the rules of the mall”?
I’m certain that the mall cops don’t know the meaning of the word proselytize.
What was he actually doing ?

-fJRoberts-


31 posted on 01/17/2023 7:20:23 AM PST by A strike ("The worse, the better."-.Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: mikelets456

So much for Minnesota nice. Where did all the Scandinavian Lutherans go?


32 posted on 01/17/2023 7:23:25 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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To: A strike
see 12: “public accommodations”

The 1st amendment is not applicable to public accommodations. I can have you leave my property for any non-protected class reason, including wearing a shirt I don't like.
33 posted on 01/17/2023 7:24:10 AM PST by TexasGunLover
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To: mikelets456

Jesus really gets some people worked up.


34 posted on 01/17/2023 7:27:56 AM PST by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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To: A strike

Did you read the article? Or did you just knee jerk to the headline like they wanted you to?

This guy, by his own admission had proselytized at this mall on previous occasions and been removed for it. This guy was not some random individual who just happened to walk into the mall that day.

The mall “Cops” knew who this guy was, he was a known repeat offender. Stop trying to turn this into ooo this mall is discriminating against anyone who follows Jesus nonsense.

Context matters.

Did the mall “cops” handle this situation properly or even legally, is a completely different discussion, but trying to turn this into Oh, this mall must be against christians and discriminates against any christian etc is just nonsense.

Go read the article, not just the headline, read the whole thing, you’ll see buried in there is the man admits he’s been removed for proselytizing before.

The mall “cops” aren’t running around looking for Jesus followers to harass.. you want that in MN you just have to walk down the streets of certain parts of Minneapolis, but it won’t be the cops, or anyone in official power, but the residents of certain no go neighborhoods.


35 posted on 01/17/2023 7:32:56 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: babble-on

Government isn’t telling him to take the shirt off. A private security company in a private business is.


36 posted on 01/17/2023 7:36:43 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

Place of public accommodation. Illegal.


37 posted on 01/17/2023 7:40:27 AM PST by anton
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To: ClearCase_guy

it would be nice to walk in as a group with each religion represented and see which ones get tossed out


38 posted on 01/17/2023 7:44:45 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: HamiltonJay

From what i understand, that day he wasn’t speaking about salvation. That day he was just wearing the shirt and shopping himself in the mall from what I understood of a previous article. They never told him that he was banned from the mall.

His shirt had the symbols for other religions on the back crossed out intimation that christ is the only way, and some hurty Feely wokester took offense to that, complained, and they were throwing him out based on what he was wearing that day, not based on what he said that day.


39 posted on 01/17/2023 7:44:51 AM PST by Bob434
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To: HamiltonJay

From the article

“The security guard said the man’s religious tee still counted as soliciting even if he was not actively preaching”

“However, the man was eventually allowed to keep his shirt on and go about his shopping, a spokesperson for the mall said”


40 posted on 01/17/2023 7:47:20 AM PST by Bob434
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