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Roger Waters ‘Going to Frankfurt’ Regardless of Legal Dispute
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Posted on 04/16/2023 2:45:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Roger Waters says he's heading to Frankfurt, Germany, despite the local authority’s attempt to ban his concert.

The Pink Floyd legend's Frankfurt tour stop, planned for May 23, was canceled by the city council amid accusations that Waters is antisemitic. He’d called the move “unjustifiable” and last month said he’d instructed his lawyers to fight the cancellation, along with another in Munich on May 21.

After noting that the deadline for the city to respond to his interim injunction had passed, Waters' new message continued: “Not that it matters much! We’re coming anyway! Because human rights matter! Because free speech matters!” Referring to the Nazi attacks on Jews across Germany on Nov. 9, 1938, it added: “We remember Kristallnacht! Like Sophie Scholl our fathers stood with those 3,000 Jewish men, and today we stand with the Palestinians!” Noting a new date, the message ended: “We’re coming to Frankfurt on the 28th of May!”

At the time of the cancellations Waters issued a statement, condemning them as “unconstitutional, without justification and based upon the false accusation that Roger Waters is antisemitic, which he is not.” His position was later supported in a petition to have the shows reinstated, signed by a wide range of artists including Nick Mason, Eric Clapton and Tom Morello.


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KEYWORDS: lookwhohatesjews; rogerwaters; waters
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Aren't Nazis illegal in Germany?
1 posted on 04/16/2023 2:45:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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signed by a wide range of artists including Nick Mason, Eric Clapton and Tom Morello.

I can tell you David Gilmour did not sign that petition.

2 posted on 04/16/2023 2:47:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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I believe so.
At least imagery, and public displays.


3 posted on 04/16/2023 2:48:24 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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I noted when I watched ‘Das Boot’, while they show the Nazi flags, they are never unfurled to the point where you actually see the Swastika.


4 posted on 04/16/2023 2:49:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Waters is far from being a Nazi.


5 posted on 04/16/2023 2:49:37 PM PDT by Sawdring
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I disagree with Roger on a lot of things, but I do respect him, in that he does put his money where his mouth is, unlike most idiot celebrities who just spout off stuff just to sound “hip”.


6 posted on 04/16/2023 2:50:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Wow, even for movies. What about Downfall?
7 posted on 04/16/2023 2:51:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Based on what? I read the words to The Wall, it's clearly promoting Nazism.
8 posted on 04/16/2023 2:52:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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He believes the Jews caused his father to die in WWII, not the Germans.


9 posted on 04/16/2023 2:53:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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His dad was killed fighting nazis. And while he is anti-zionist/Israel, that in itself isn’t anti-semitic. It’s not too bright, but he opposes Israel because he sees it as an apartheid regime.
Germans are strage and should never be allowed the keys to a government. They unleashed Prussian Bureaucracy, Communism and Nazism on the world.

They really need to spend another century or two just making Bratwurst, electronics, Beer, cars, and Cuckoo Clocks.


10 posted on 04/16/2023 2:53:50 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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No, that was him portraying the drugged-up performer who imagined being a Nazi-type leader, before finally ‘tearing down the wall’.


11 posted on 04/16/2023 2:54:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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George Soros puts his money where his mouth is, do you respect him?

And where is Waters putting his money?

12 posted on 04/16/2023 2:54:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: dfwgator

Good observation. I now know this evening’s program.
I’ll let ya know.
Great movie.


13 posted on 04/16/2023 2:55:48 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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I think he sees it more as a Communist, in that Capitalism caused the war.

What’s interesting to note is that before Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, a lot of our ‘isolationists’ were in fact Communists who were told by Moscow not to get involved in the “Imperialist War”. Of course that all changed once Hitler invaded the Soviet Union.


14 posted on 04/16/2023 2:56:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Yeah, they pretty much hate each other. Amazing how many of the top musical groups can barely stand each other. Something about creative competition between arrogant high achievers and focused bitterness, steeped in dope produces some amazing things.


15 posted on 04/16/2023 2:56:40 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Did he say that he didn't like bagels or hamantashen?

16 posted on 04/16/2023 2:57:10 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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I read it. There are a lot of tropes about rock stars. Trashing hotels, being druggies, etc. None of those tropes is about rock stars being wannabe Nazi-type leaders.

The other thing is, he makes the main character "pink," transparently based on himself. So, who would make a character, based on himself, a wannabe Nazi-type leader?

So Waters himself thinks he's a wannabe Nazi. If he thinks so, why should I disagree?

17 posted on 04/16/2023 2:58:20 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Everything. They’re very twitchy about it. Even the Wolfenstein games were banned until last fall.


18 posted on 04/16/2023 2:58:51 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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I got some news for you sunshine, a lot of Jews hate Israel.

Before the war, there were two camps of Jews. The Zionists, and the Socialist Bund Jews. The Socialist Bund Jews despised the idea of a Jewish State, because it implied that all Jews must live there, instead of spreading themselves across the globe and spreading world socialism.

Now that’s not to say they were fans of Soviet-style ‘Bolshevism’ neither. We know Stalin in fact was no fan of Jewish people.


19 posted on 04/16/2023 3:00:53 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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The wall promotes Nazis? You missed that by a -wide- mark. It is clearly about stuffy British control freak caged soul-crushing society. Teachers and mothers get special attention.
Not a nazi to be found.

He is simply bitterly, if understandably, vehemently anti-war. It practically screams through his work. The wall, the final cut, his opposition to the middle east wars, refusal to treat Israelis with kid gloves, his opposition to NATO and to Putin. His opposition to the Falklands war, his 80s anti-nuke positions.

You may not agree with him, but even a cursory glance at his work and interviews shows him to be utterly opposed to war. He is a lotta things, but he’s not a nazi symapthyzer.


20 posted on 04/16/2023 3:02:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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