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Why is Govt struggling to agree referendum wording? [Ireland: “gender-neutral” constitution]
RTÉ News ^ | Sunday, 30 Jul 2023 06:00 | Sinéad Spain

Posted on 08/02/2023 11:13:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai

For years, politicians have been facing the prospect of holding a referendum to remove outdated language which refers to women in the home from the Constitution.

Now, time for a final decision is rapidly approaching and the Government is discovering it is entering a territory littered with landmines.

This week, the Taoiseach said the Government remains committed to holding the referendum, but admitted an inter-departmental group which is working on the wording has struggled to agree on the precise question or questions to be asked.

The proposed Referendum on Article 41 has three objectives: remove gendered language referring to women and mothers; ensure the role of care is supported; and create a more inclusive definition of family.

These issues have been on the political agenda since at least 2019 when a Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality chaired by former EU Commission secretary general Catherine Day was established. […]

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has admitted the language is “old fashioned”, saying the Government wants to replace it with “something affirmative”. …

(Excerpt) Read more at rte.ie ...


TOPICS: Local News; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fartyshadesofgreen; genderneutral; homosexualagenda; ireland
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1 posted on 08/02/2023 11:13:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

When you elect a Drunk Government this is what you get


2 posted on 08/02/2023 11:17:51 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: butlerweave

I don’t want to think about what they’re actually intoxicated on.


3 posted on 08/02/2023 11:22:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: butlerweave

More like a gov’t led by foreign wog unChristian fags.

What is it about the Anglosphere that we are so extreme about this stuff ?

I was thinking it was the Protestant non-conformist heritage, which when it becomes secular, just turns into the worst simpering, feminized, longhouse, faggotry.

But Ireland doesn’t have that.


4 posted on 08/02/2023 11:26:00 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Olog-hai

Thank God the people in DC weren’t as stupid as they are now - or we’d all be readying about ‘groovy legislation...


5 posted on 08/02/2023 11:28:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (What are the odds both Biden White House idogs only bite Secret Service Agents? NOT a coincidence.)
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To: butlerweave

When most Congressional Aids are sexual weirdos this is what you get.


6 posted on 08/02/2023 11:29:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (What are the odds both Biden White House idogs only bite Secret Service Agents? NOT a coincidence.)
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To: Reverend Wright

I don’t see where “wogs” come into it. 94% white there in the Republic. Northern Ireland (98% white) was the last place on the island where abortion was prohibited, until Westminster forced it on them in 2019.

Don’t forget that Karl Marx was a resident of London from 1849 until his death in 1883. All of Ireland was a part of the UK at that time, and Marx’s ideas rapidly infiltrated the Irish Republican Brotherhood, aka the Fenians.


7 posted on 08/02/2023 12:00:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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“I don’t see where “wogs” come into it. “

Leo Varadkar.

Both Ireland and the UK are now Subcontinent Occupied Governments.


8 posted on 08/02/2023 12:12:43 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright
The Subcontinent in question is just as occupied by Marxists as the Atlantic Archipelago British Isles.
9 posted on 08/02/2023 12:16:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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But it is the Anglosphere which was gone more insane with the gender crap than any other countries.

That’s the point of the article.

They may be bringing in foreign leaders to do a “diversity” while it happens, but any Anglosphere country is way worse than india on this stuff.


10 posted on 08/02/2023 12:22:25 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

I did indicate the original source of that within the Anglosphere, who lived in London for 46 years.

The 1867 Fenian Rising and 1916 Easter Rising were plotted and perpetrated by a lot of communists.


11 posted on 08/02/2023 12:25:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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“Communism” is not the problem here.

The USSR never did this sort of insane gender faggotry.

They are forcing it on everyone, but this is an Anglosphere issue.


12 posted on 08/02/2023 12:27:46 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

Not correct. Lenin actually did allow open homosexuals to serve in the Supreme Soviet. The “gender madness”, should it have approached its current form (science was not so advanced) was not allowed to reach fever pitch when Stalin rolled it back.

And I do not recall the rest of the European Union being part of the Anglosphere. Transgenderism was apparent on the continent long before in the Anglosphere; take note of Einar Wegener aka “Lili Elbe”.

Not to mention gender madness being apparent in Native American tribes, in the form of “two-spirits” aka Berdache.


13 posted on 08/02/2023 12:37:44 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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You are reaching.

It is not disputable that the current gender madness is being led by the Anglosphere, specifically the USA.


14 posted on 08/02/2023 12:40:50 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

Stating facts is “reaching”?

Yes, it is disputable because the facts do not bear it out. The Anglosphere did not originate gender madness nor are they its leaders; there would be no backlash if they did. It is certainly under attack by it itself, in order to achieve the communist goal of abolishing the family.

If you are into some kind of “Blame the Anglosphere for all evils” kick, please do it elsehwere. Have a nice day.


15 posted on 08/02/2023 12:45:44 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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“...nor are they its leaders...”

Come off it, buddy. the whole world can see it is the Anglosphere leading on this stuff.

You know, the USA and the Anglosphere is not perfect, and it is permissible to point that out.


16 posted on 08/02/2023 12:55:47 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

Proof by assertion. So I take that as a yes. That’s all you can come up with when the facts are against you.

Did I deny that leftist leaders within the Anglosphere are pushing this, particularly when they either assume power by legitimate electoral means or seize power? No. But they are not the ultimate leaders; they did not cause transgenderism elsewhere in the world, e.g. Iran, India, Thailand ad nauseam.


17 posted on 08/02/2023 1:01:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Iran, India, Thailand do not put up the LGBTQ+++ flag on their embassies in the United States.

The embassies of the United States put up the gay flag in those countries, AND IN EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD !

It is the Anglosphere, particularly the United States, which is imperialist and proselytizing on the gay lgbt gender tranny stuff.

I don’t understand what is to be gained by pretending that is not the case.


18 posted on 08/02/2023 1:13:11 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright
Red herrings.

The homo flag is evident in lots of other non-Anglosphere countries. Those countries were not pushed to do it by the “Anglosphere”. To accuse any part of the world of being the “leader” of an evil cause implies that they originated the agenda and subsequently forced it upon the entirety of the rest of the world, which is utterly absurd.

Funny you insist on calling the USA “imperialist”, which is what a leftist typically does.

Did you ever read the 45 stated goals of communists for the USA? That is proof that the immorality push originated outside the USA, and that the USA was the leader in standing against such things, i.e. before the left grabbed power in the (as it were) Anglosphere.

Thanks for chatting. Please try to be more dispassionate next time and to use no logical fallacies.
19 posted on 08/02/2023 1:26:44 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Reverend Wright

PS. Thanks so much for hijacking the thread.


20 posted on 08/02/2023 1:27:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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