Posted on 08/15/2023 7:26:45 AM PDT by Howie66
In life, when you find out your friend is not there for you, will not defend you, ignores you, betrays you, fails you, and doesn’t even like you – you move on.
It’s better to be alone than to face the pain of betrayal over and over again.
Last night was the last straw.
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So should we all join the Constitution Party, or start a new party from scratch?
The Whig Party dissolved in the 1850s, and the Republican Party rose at the same time to become a major party.
Other parties in history have gone out of existence, such as the Federalist party, in the early days of American history.
While there have been 2 major parties for most of our history, the 2 parties have not always been today’s Democrats and Republicans.
Could we start a Free Republic Party, dedicated to the conservative principles and values we all hold to? How do we go about doing that, as far as getting on election ballots in various states, so that we would really have an impact?
How do we avoid being slotted as a fringe party, such as Libertarians are? Libertarians are on the ballot in many states, but have only won a handful of lower level elections such as a few state legislative seats.
Points to ponder, as to how to challenge the established two party system we have. The Republicans have disappointed many of us on various issues, but, realistically, it would be a major effort to replace the Republican party.
Constitution Party sounds better than the RNC, does it not?
At this point, almost anything sounds better than the RNC/GOP Cabal.
What I don’t know from history, is how the Whig Party dissolved. Did Whigs quit en masse? If many of us left the Republican Party, it could decimate the GOP as a major political force. Are there enough fed up Republicans to do that?
I’ve been wanting a new party for decades - not anything national like we have now, say the current GOPe socialist party or like the democrat communist party. A party that is rooted by states in control, much like a loosely ‘Convention of States’ would look like whereas the feds would be responsible to the states rather than the other way around. Trim the budget immediately by a couple $trillion, not give $billions to pet projects and other countries, not even $millions, ever. Restore freedoms. In short, stop redistribution of wealth of what the feds do now - and they have to borrow $trillions to do it.
A boy can dream.
“If many of us left the Republican Party, it could decimate the GOP as a major political force. Are there enough fed up Republicans to do that?”
To your first statement: The GOP is NOT a major political force. It is a FRAUD that is perpetuated on the American Citizens. When is the last time that they have seriously opposed the Democrat Party on an issue?
As to your question: All I can say that if there aren’t enough of us that are willing to jettison the Assistant Democrats who masquerade as Republicans, we are in serious trouble. I sincerely pray that this is not the case.
We share this dream, my brother.
Conservativism, the way you mean it, is dead as a doornail.
Something new is needed.
"When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security"
My Dad is a Goldwater and Reagan conservative. He’s voted GOP even when they nominated the pure scum of the party, McCain and McRomney. As of right now he has no plans to vote in 24 unless Trump or DeSantis is on the ticket. He stopped voting for his GOP congressman and one senator McWeasel years ago.
I have voted GOP since Reagan and like him held my nose and voted for those two sorry traitorous POS’s called McCain and McRomney. I vote for Rand Paul and that’s it on the national level unless Trump or DeSantis is the nominee. After Trump the GOP’s future is utterly desolate. I see no reason to waste my time and effort to vote for a bunch of lying, cheese eating surrender monkeys.
It is delusional and cowardly to abandon the fight for control of the republican party.
Doing so is surrender to the infiltrators, who continue to gain resources because people are STUPID enough not to realize they are helping the infiltrators accomplish EXACTLY what the infiltrators hoped to accomplish.
They use the same strategy to take control of, destroy the name brand, and splinter up religious demonimnations, knowing that most conservatives are too polite to fight and too naive to realize it is an intentional strategy.
If you are so cowardly to abandon the fight for the republican party, you are DELUSIONAL to think you are going to go make any difference in some new party other than wekening the conservative vote inside the GOP and splitting the conservative vote in general elections... handing easy victories to the left.
The correct strategy is to identify and oppose the RINOs and educate the conservatives who fall for leftist strategies so we can have a strong, unified party at the extreme cost of eternal vigilence.
Please forgive my intentionally provocative candor.
Yet the history of the CP demonstrates the difficulties of a third party gaining any traction.
Wouldn’t our enemies love it if we go third party.
Plays right into their hands.
How happy are you when democrats vote green?
They feel the same way when you go “Constitution Party” or Libertarian or whatever.
As I see it the GOP base is now made up of three small groups who even when combined into a core base is still too small to maintain a viable political party in a 2 party system.
People, this is not the base of a strong viable party.
“How do we avoid being slotted as a fringe party, such as Libertarians are?”
That’s simple. You win.
Old Steve Martin joke:
I can tell you a simple way to be a millionaire and never pay taxes. First, get a million dollars. Then...
Social conservatives
Patriots
Law and order supporters
Anti racists.
It’s a very strong base actually.
Fair enough.
Frankly, I think that it is delusional and cowardly to entertain the notion that somehow the RNC/GOP is somehow “redeemable”. I liken that line of thinking to the infamous “Battered Wife Syndrome”.
I am no longer in the mood for saying: “Thank You, Sir! May I Have Another?”.
You do what you will.
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