Posted on 08/28/2023 4:36:26 AM PDT by MtnClimber
A few weeks ago, Joe Allen responded to my "Artificial Intelligence: The Facts" by suggesting that the real danger of AIs is that the best, most efficient models will be operated by the Deep State and its technofascist allies, rendering opposition difficult if not futile: “…AI won't be a "digital defense" against "the WEF" and "tech giants" when the latter have the most powerful systems.” This is a perceptive comment, towering well above the “SkyNet is comin’ with his cyborgs” nonsense that this discussion usually attracts.
Vernor Vinge, an outsized influence on infotech culture, once speculated that a truly efficient totalitarian system wouldn’t consist of jackbooted secret police and continuous surveillance but in fact would scarcely be evident. Things would just happen to enemies of the state, accidents that nobody could predict or explain. For instance, an individual presenting a problem for the powers would order something for dinner that arrives chock full of botulin toxin, injected in the lab that transforms insect proteins into edible food. As the toxin hits, his phone, internet, and monitoring equipment all go down. After the job is done, they all come back up, their logs edited to show nothing at all unusual. When the body is discovered, there’s no evidence of anything out of the ordinary. Death by misadventure. What ya gonna do?
And so it would go on, day after day, year after year, the bonds growing ever tighter, and nobody even noticing.
You’d need AI to handle things on this level of efficiency. In fact, you’d need quite a few, all optimized to operate a particular system: surveillance, analysis, and what might be called “assassination by Siri.”
It’s quite a plausible nightmare. But how feasible is it?
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I would like to think that people with a conscience would find ways to sabotage societal-control AI systems in the future. I am thinking of systems like the current Chinese social credit system.
Let’s stop calling it “Artificial Intelligence” and call it what it is, “Automated Fascism.”
I’m thinking that the elites are viewing AI as a form of protection to keep them alive, but I think AI will prove to be like the theoretical bodyguard in a nuclear winter. The elites will be at its mercy.
AI requires power to operate.. I don’t.
I definitely won’t live long enough to see the total destruction of what AI will do but it’s moving far faster than I thought.
When you read about how they train AIs to process information a particular way and return the answer they want it to give..
You will recognize how the American Public has been trained the same way.
BTTT
More accurate phrase.
GIGO, but faster!
I would like to think that people with a conscience would find ways to sabotage societal-control AI systems in the future. I am thinking of systems like the current Chinese social credit system.
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AI poses an existential threat to humanity. Soon all governments and wealthy self-styled world architects will have their own AI, battling against their opposition. Only AI will be able to destroy opposing AI. This can not end well since the human qualities of common sense, conscience, emotion, empathy, sympathy, ethics, and morals will go out the window. It’s just like the race in genetic modification. The excuse is if we don’t do it, others will gain an advantage over us. We also see this in the nuclear arena, but so far the human self-preservation quality has curtailed world annihilation. With AI running the show, all bets are off.
Nice fantasy. But...
Any author that thinks that AI will plateau at the level of ChatGPT doesn't understand AI.
Whether or not it ever reaches sentience is another matter altogether and one subject to pure speculation. But that aside, AI is progressing at light-speed.
For example, as crazy as it sounds, Stephen L. Thaler, PhD, president and CEO of Imagination Engines, thinks he has already created an LLM that is sentient.
‘It has feelings’: Inventor says he has built a sentient AI
Thaler may be blowing smoke, but the point is that scientists are going to be pushing the edge of the envelope re: AGI. We may never get there, but we will keep getting closer and closer.
BTW, ChatGPT already looks primitive compared to some of the other systems coming on board. When it comes to controlling AI, another problem arises. Increasing the power of AI means increasing the size of the data sets it consumes. Control means smaller data sets (i.e., the elimination of unwanted data). A controlled system is, by its very nature, a less accurate, less efficient, and less powerful system.
For example, there have already been complaints that AI will lead to racial discrimination by banks re: lending to minorities. Banks can't make AI systems ignore people with poor credit despite their minority status. In other words, AI won't discriminate in favor of minorities unless the banks feed it tiny biased data sets (favoring minorities by ignoring their poor credit)...and tiny data sets ruin the AI systems' ability to operate efficiently.
They are a new Aristocracy. Born to rule and play and not work. Once the aristocracy were the warriors, and we could tolerate them as useful knights and officer—but no more. They are no longer needed. Its getting close to storm the Bastille Time.
The biggest problem with AI is not that its smarter than us. It isn’t. The problem with AI is that our government and companies will hide behind it. And blame the AI. Like AI can take blame. We have had AI for 40 years. Its getting better and more pervasive. But its been there for decades. Its only now that Google or Youtube will blame the “algorithm” for bad actions. Like there is nothing they can do about it. Thats not true. Google should be responsible for its AI. If they break a law or stomp on someones rights, its their fault. The AI is not a person. It is not in charge. Its just a program with data. Yes it may be complex. And the data it uses may be vast. But it is never in charge. Like your bull mastiff, if you teach it to kill, and your leash breaks, what happens next is your fault. AI is always somebodies fault.
BTW, ChatGPT already looks primitive compared to some of the other systems coming on board.”
any elaboration you could do on this would be greatly appreciated...especially if you could point us towards consumer grade alternatives to chatgpt - especially if they are easy to onboard/use....
As an aside, I understand that specialty systems for law firms, business, and medicine are being used privately, but I have no way of verifying that.
“Things would just happen to enemies of the state, accidents that nobody could predict or explain.”
This has been the case for decades.
The Clinton death list is one example.
There are many more that most Freepers do not even know about...don’t want to be accused of being “conspiracy theorists”....
Anybody know who Thomas R. Baron was? The guy was run over by a train in November 1966.
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