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Lahaina rescuers win access but find few animals; pigs not to blame for fire
Animals 24/7 ^ | August 29, 2023 | Clifton, Merritt

Posted on 08/30/2023 7:01:35 PM PDT by Norski

LAHAINA, Maui, Hawaii––Eighteen days of animal rescuers battling bureaucracy to retrieve surviving animals from inside the Lahaina burn zone, leveled by wildfire on August 8, 2023, ended abruptly when Maui County announced that, “As of 3:30 pm on Saturday, August 26, 2023, Maui County officials have permitted the Maui Humane Society to access the Lahaina burn zone in a coordinated search and rescue effort to find lost animals.”

"Enter Adam Karp The story behind the story of rescuers finally gaining access to the Lahaina burn zone appears to have begun with a posting to the Action for the Animals of Maui page on Facebook late on August 24, 2023 by Adam Karp, a senior animal rights attorney from Bellingham, Washington.

“Good evening everyone,” Karp began, introducing himself to Maui animal rescuers. “I am Hawaii-licensed, and practice on all islands, but live in Washington.”

Karp, who was already in Hawaii in connection with a different case, asked for five specific categories of information that he would need to file a federal lawsuit seeking to open rescuer access to the burn zone.

Mike Merrill of Florida Urgent Rescue in Jacksonville, 4,636 miles away, had already compiled almost everything Karp wanted and responded within minutes." . . .

"“Barred access by unknown entity” Within 24 hours Karp was in communication with Hawaii attorney general Anne E. Lopez by both telephone and email.

“I have been contacted by numerous people, including a Lahaina-based animal rescue, and others who have confirmed that their animals are still alive inside the zone, but are being barred access at the direction of an unknown entity,” Karp told Lopez, “be it the Hawaii Department of Defense, the Hawaii Emergency Management Administration, Maui Emergency Management Administration, Federal Emergency Management Administration, mayor, police, or perhaps the governor..."

(Excerpt) Read more at animals24-7.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Pets/Animals; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fire; hawaii; lahaina; maui
A somewhat long article, but important to read due to the ability of an animal rights group to obtain access to the burned area of Lahaina denied most others.

Learn new tactics always.

1 posted on 08/30/2023 7:01:35 PM PDT by Norski
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stray voters


2 posted on 08/30/2023 7:03:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ConservativeInPA; ransomnote; DallasBiff

ping.


3 posted on 08/30/2023 7:03:57 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Norski

If only they would expend that much effort on people ... especially the most defenseless of all.


4 posted on 08/30/2023 7:06:48 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Norski

How can pigs start a Fire?


5 posted on 08/30/2023 7:08:25 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: Gene Eric

In this case, very possibly.

However, this is being posted to assist humans, as unlikely as it may seem. Item bothering most is that this was 1) successful, and 2) necessary. See below additional excerpt:

(note: am an animal lover, but humans come first.)

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Who to sue?

The first of those reasons was “To clear a line of communication and avoid misinformation while finding a nonlegal solution that will permit all to grasp a fuller understanding of the statutory grounds invoked to prohibit access vis-a-vis the constitutional rights of Lahainans to recover their ‘property,’ including likely support animals protected by federal law.”

The second reason, “Barring resolution,” was to “know who to notify should I file a federal action in Hawaii District Court seeking a temporary restraining order,” to be argued on the next business day.

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That stick of legal dynamite seemed to loosen the log jam. . . .” . . .


6 posted on 08/30/2023 7:12:13 PM PDT by Norski
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To: texas booster

Yes. This article has been posted to show the successful tactics used by animal lovers, and should have been used by us on behalf of humans. . . . tactics that have been used to acquire access to the the burn areas for assistance and recovery of animals by animal lovers should have been used earlier by the rest of us . . .


7 posted on 08/30/2023 7:16:15 PM PDT by Norski
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To: DallasBiff

A rhetorical question posed by the authors of the article.

This article has been pinged to you because you posted another Lahaina burn article. Thank you.


8 posted on 08/30/2023 7:18:05 PM PDT by Norski
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To: DallasBiff; ransomnote

See Eric the Hawaii Real Estate Guy discussing the community needs. He is raising money pay of the burned-out persons’ mortgages to keep the land in the hands of the Hawaiian property owners.

He got 1.5 hours of drone footage of the burned-out areas. Incredible sights, so many properties burned in a grid, with many others totally untouched by fire. . . .

“WAKE UP AMERICA & SMELL THE MAUI FIRE!!!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQRdCgfIxJc


9 posted on 08/30/2023 7:29:34 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Norski

Get mad at me all you want, but the maui fire was not caused by animals, but by nefarious humans, in my opinion.


10 posted on 08/30/2023 7:35:30 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: DallasBiff

Please, the article does not say that; we are in accord here.

Pigs did not start these fires.
Believe they are human-caused.
The article does not say that the fires were caused by pigs, either.

The only reason for posting this article was to show that a group of animal activists were able to get access to burnt Lahaina that has been denied to the property owners and media. Wanted to to give an example of a tactic that is working.


11 posted on 08/30/2023 7:45:14 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Norski
If my property was burnt to a crisp, like Lahaina, I would be sad also.

Was there 30 years ago, it was beautiful, espcially looking over at the bay and seeing the other islands,

12 posted on 08/30/2023 7:56:05 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: DallasBiff

Mrs. O’Leary’s cow was falsely blamed on the Chicago fire.


13 posted on 08/30/2023 8:03:34 PM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill
Mrs. O’Leary’s cow was falsely blamed on the Chicago fire.

How do you know that? The Irish are blamed for everything like the Jews.

14 posted on 08/30/2023 8:12:38 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: Norski

>> That stick of legal dynamite seemed to loosen the log jam.

Seems so. I suppose the “unknown entity” will continue to remain unknown.


15 posted on 08/30/2023 8:43:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: DallasBiff

”And the bad news...?”

16 posted on 08/30/2023 11:50:28 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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