Posted on 09/28/2023 5:41:19 AM PDT by marktwain
I watched a youtuber run “shotgun for home defense” penetration tests on plywood boards simulating inside home tests of shotgun pellet sizes,
ALL, including dove loads, blew chunk holes within 10ft, bigger buckshot tore through multiple “walls”. Like 4 of them!
Yes Virginia, 00 buck can over penetrate flimsy inside walls and hit a neighbor.
The bird hunter may have been using heavy-shot instead of lead shot if he was shooting bigger birds like chickens or pheasants. Heavy- shot is just that, heavier than lead and more deadly because of increased penetration due to extra weight of the projectiles.
Good for snake killing to
This the very reason I prefer #2 shot shotgun defense. 12ga 3” mag. 1 1/4 oz. of #2 is approximately 110 pellets. Shot group stays tight even out of a cgylinder bore. I have an Ithaca NID that once was 30” F&F. Got it cheap as the right tube had been severly dented near the muzzle. Barrels were cut to 22”. It handles slugs and 00 buck really well. It is absolutely devastating with #2 out to 40’. A pistol is to get me to my shotgun. A shot to get me to my rifle. There is good argument for a five-eight shot pump. Looking at the business end of that 22” Ithaca is a sobering experience.
“Bird hunters tend to be on full alert when expecting to jump-shoot birds out of cover.”
Lol, bear was unprepared for the speed of a sporting clays guy. And EVERYBODY hates a load of birdshot to the face.
Yeah, but that’s just too bad. Hunter had to save his life, and it would have been retarded for him to pursue it with a bird hunting gun.
So it’s just a reality. No need for an issue.
It probably depends on the wound and the individual and the sex of the bear. And whether or not the wound hampered the bear’s normal hunting capability?
Just a guess.
Even griz dislikes a load of 7 1/2 to the face.
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Most homes don't have plywood walls and sheetrock aka gypsum board is nowhere near as tough as plywood.
I did help build a house with a Man that was raised in the Depression Era and He wasted nothing. The 3 story house was built entirely of salvaged materials except the nails. The walls were sheathed with 1/2" plywood and later the Son had Me cover the plywood with 1/2" sheetrock that was taped, floated and painted. As a rule the walls in just about every new house are just 1/2" sheetrock. When the Son finally moved into the house it ended up being 5 stories plus a huge basement that was more of a Fallout Shelter than a basement. From the top of the finished house (that was a sundeck) in Lago Vista, TX you could see All of Lakeway, TX on the other end of Lake Travis.
One winter I took my Britney Spaniel grouse hunting after a four inch snowfall. After about 2 hours the dog started acting a little squirrely and was ranging farther than normal. Then I came upon some LARGE bear tracks in the fresh snow. At that time of year I expected they would be hibernating. I knew if the dog found the bear it would likely chase him right back to me. All I had for ammo was bird loads so we decided to call it a day.
When stationed in Alaska the same old guy that got me hooked on the 35 Whelen controlled round feed told me if your fishing use a double barrel 12 ga with #00 buck and put it up his snout as your only gonna get two shots off if your calm accurate and lucky.
Had an old knickerbocker , short barrel. Never had to use it on a BEAR but had a trained bear dog, a 5 inch custom 500 Linebaugh Ruger Redhawk, the knickerbocker 12 gauge and my 35 Whelen sporterized Mauser K98. My arsenal while in Alaska .......
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