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Are Wind Turbines Killing These 100,000 Pound Mammals?
Epoch Times ^ | 10/10/23 | Matt Macgregor

Posted on 10/10/2023 8:55:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Former President Donald Trump said recently that "windmills are causing whales to die in numbers never seen before."


(Illustration by The Epoch Times)

His comments, made at a campaign rally in South Carolina, were quickly ground through the fact-checking mills of legacy media outlets such as The Guardian and the BBC.

"They’re washing up ashore. I saw it this weekend, three of them came up. You wouldn’t see it once a year. Now they’re coming up on a weekly basis," President Trump said.

The Guardian called his allegation a "lengthy and largely baseless attack on wind turbines for causing large numbers of whales to die, claiming that 'windmills' are making the cetaceans 'crazy' and 'a little batty.'"

The BBC lamented that clips of the former president's speech had exceeded 9 million views but that his "claims are not backed up by evidence."

President Trump also said only one whale had been killed off the coast of South Carolina in the past 50 years, but now the numbers are increasing.

The BBC quoted Rob Deaville with the Zoological Society of London’s Cetacean Strandings Investigation Programme, who said whale deaths are caused by the fishing industry and ship strikes.

"To talk about wind farms being a problem takes away discussion around the very real threats that are a problem for those species,” Mr. Deaville told the BBC.

He said that there’s been no conclusive link between whale deaths and wind farms in the UK.

Andrew Read, commissioner of the U.S.-based Marine Mammal Commission, told The Guardian that "there’s no scientific evidence whatsoever that wind turbines, or surveying for wind turbines, is causing any whale deaths at all."

Although there are broader concerns over industrializing the ocean, he said whale deaths are caused by vessel strikes, entanglement in fishing gear, and warming of the ocean caused by climate change.

"The population of humpback whales, in particular, is recovering from being hunted and they are coming closer to the coast to feed on prey, which means they are being hit as they come into shipping lanes, or being caught up in nets," Mr. Read said.

He said people protesting ocean-based wind turbines are being manipulated by "fossil fuel interests," who are threatened by so-called clean energy.

Whales and Turbines

In August, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reported to The Epoch Times that there had been 65 large whale deaths along the East Coast since December 2022. Three dead whales washed ashore in one week in Fire Island, New York; Long Branch, New Jersey; and Long Beach, New York.

In September, the Biden administration released "An Action Plan for Offshore Wind Transmission Development in the U.S. Atlantic Region."

President Joe Biden’s $3.5 billion goal is to deploy 30 gigawatts of offshore wind by 2030.

The plan is based on the "Atlantic Offshore Wind Transmission Study" to coordinate “timely transmission access for offshore wind" and to "evaluate multiple pathways to offshore wind goals.”

Lisa Linowes, founder of WindAction, said in the recent documentary "Thrown to the Wind" that in its rush to meet these goals, the renewable energy industry has cast aside the "precautionary principle," in which the burden is on the developer to avoid or minimize harm.

Ms. Linowes said the move is costing lives.

"Roughly 350 whales have died along the East Coast since 2016," she said.

The uptick began in 2016, she said, with a slight dip in 2022.

"And in the first six months of 2023—so just half a year—roughly 40-plus whales have died," Ms. Linowes said.

Currently, a total of 3,500 wind turbines are proposed for construction across 2.2 million acres of ocean along the East Coast.

High-resolution geophysical technology is used to survey the ocean floor for the future construction of these turbines. This seismic equipment is sending out frequencies that some believe are blasting the whales and dolphins with loud sounds that have resulted in their disorientation and inability to traverse the waters as safely as they had before.

Robert Rand, an environmental scientist, said the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) and NOAA haven’t accounted for the avoidance and aversion that takes place when the whales hear the pile driving and other dissonant sounds reverberating from the construction of the turbines.

"They don’t make the connection between a loud noise in the water and species moving away from that noise, and that’s a problem because they don’t have the fat stores to run around forever trying to get away from that noise," Mr. Rand said in the film.

"If a calf is separated from the mother, what I understand is both of them start stressing a lot, and it doesn’t take long for them to die. It’s a very deadly situation. The calf needs the mother for food, and the mother is trying to find the calf."

After the mother and calf expend their energy, they are stranded and they die, he said.

Mr. Rand published an independent technical study in September that examined "geophysical sonar vessel operational noise" for the purpose of improving "noise control protections" for marine life.

"What I’m seeing is troubling," Mr. Rand said. "What I’m seeing are levels that are above the limit which NOAA itself set to be protected at distances which are much higher than were granted in the incidental harassment authorization. So, to me, it looks like an absolute breakdown of regulatory protection for the right whale."

Environmental Groups Silent

When it comes to oil and gas development, environmental groups such as Greenpeace and the Sierra Club will advocate for wildlife, Ms. Linowes said, but in the case of so-called renewable energy, they blame other factors such as ship strikes and climate change, or they keep silent.

In 2021, the National Marine Fisheries Service concluded that the Rice’s whale in the Gulf of Mexico was its own separate species, of which there remained only 50.

In July, NOAA proposed to designate 18 million acres of the Gulf of Mexico from Texas to Florida as critical habitat for the Rice’s whale, a proposal that would significantly limit the oil and gas industry from offshore drilling.

Republican lawmakers along the Gulf Coast filed lawsuits fighting the designation, arguing that the proposal wasn’t well thought out and would harm the economy, according to a report by The Washington Post.

U.S. District Judge James Cain, appointed by President Trump, agreed and ordered NOAA to withdraw its proposal.

Environmental groups such as the Center for Biological Diversity advocated for the protection of the area, and the group has initiated several lawsuits arguing that offshore drilling is harming ocean wildlife; however, the organization has made no efforts to challenge the offshore wind development impact on whales.

On Sept. 28, the center filed an emergency petition asking that NOAA mandate speed limits for vessels.

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TOPICS: Science; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: atlantic; climatechange; eastcoast; econuts; gulfofmexico; riceswhale; rightwhale; ugliness; whales; windmills; windturbines

1 posted on 10/10/2023 8:55:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

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They kill birds and bats 24 hours a day, too.

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2 posted on 10/10/2023 8:57:40 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Impeachment is necessary since Deep State is blocking )
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought submarines were responsible for whale beaching.


3 posted on 10/10/2023 8:58:26 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: SeekAndFind

Robert Rand, an environmental scientist, said the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) and NOAA haven’t accounted for the avoidance and aversion that takes place when the whales hear the pile driving and other dissonant sounds reverberating from the construction of the turbines.

“They don’t make the connection between a loud noise in the water and species moving away from that noise, and that’s a problem because they don’t have the fat stores to run around forever trying to get away from that noise,” Mr. Rand said in the film.

“If a calf is separated from the mother, what I understand is both of them start stressing a lot, and it doesn’t take long for them to die. It’s a very deadly situation. The calf needs the mother for food, and the mother is trying to find the calf.”

After the mother and calf expend their energy, they are stranded and they die, he said.
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This is one of many reasons not to build these NON-ECONOMICAL WINDMILLS.


4 posted on 10/10/2023 9:00:51 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: Mean Daddy

Nuh uh...

White guys and Republicans.


5 posted on 10/10/2023 9:27:04 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: House Atreides

““If a calf is separated from the mother, what I understand is both of them start stressing a lot, and it doesn’t take long for them to die. It’s a very deadly situation. The calf needs the mother for food, and the mother is trying to find the calf.”

After the mother and calf expend their energy, they are stranded and they die, he said.”

Man, that’s F’cked up! And they are ugly too.


6 posted on 10/10/2023 9:28:34 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: Mean Daddy

Sonar can kill/damage.


7 posted on 10/10/2023 9:31:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: House Atreides

Just wait until the build the 30 million acres in the Gulf. Woo hoo! Dumbasses!


8 posted on 10/10/2023 9:49:48 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: rktman

That sounds like a target just waiting for a hurricane.


9 posted on 10/10/2023 10:11:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: TigersEye

Rebuild longevity.


10 posted on 10/10/2023 10:28:52 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: rktman

Is that what we used to call ‘planned obsolescence?’

I guess it was time to update that term. :)


11 posted on 10/10/2023 10:36:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Give it some time and in a few years ,they will say that the wind turbines are causing whale deaths. Trump will be proven correct yet again. Trump & Rush were/are almost always right.


12 posted on 10/11/2023 12:09:27 AM PDT by spincaster
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To: Mean Daddy

they were. the sonar pings were driving them mental.

my guess would be the vibrations off the windmills sending sonic waves underwater that mess with the whales


13 posted on 10/11/2023 12:16:15 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SeekAndFind

“the avoidance and aversion that takes place when the whales hear the pile driving and other dissonant sounds”

Pile-drivers in the open ocean are powered by diesel engines.
As is the equipment that set’s up the pile-drivers to operate.

The windmill carbon foot print is getting bigger.


14 posted on 10/11/2023 4:11:57 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We", I speak of, not for, We the People...)
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To: Dogbert41

““If a calf is separated from the mother”

Hypothetical scenario.
No evidence this is actually what happens.
“If”.
But, if the story is told enough times, it might just become part of the human-whale lore.


15 posted on 10/11/2023 4:14:27 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We", I speak of, not for, We the People...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, I’m not buying the wind turbine connection to whale deaths. Doesn’t pass the smell test. And the parties claiming the connection have funding ties to benefit from the conclusion.


16 posted on 10/11/2023 4:28:00 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Hamas.)
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To: TigersEye

LOL! Or job security. I wonder how much lubrication will make it all the way down to the water line. I’ve seen some nasty leak stains on some wind mills. Gee, I wonder where the lube come from? 🤔

🙏🇮🇱👍


17 posted on 10/11/2023 5:51:11 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: rktman

I understand they use lard. Pig fat.

So anyone who doesn’t want contact with pig fat should avoid jobs working on windmills. :)


18 posted on 10/11/2023 6:52:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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