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UFOs and Aliens Are (Probably) Not What You Think: An Interview with Diana Walsh Pasulka
europeanconservative.com ^ | Rod Dreher

Posted on 11/09/2023 7:14:58 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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1 posted on 11/09/2023 7:14:58 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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2 posted on 11/09/2023 7:16:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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Why do aliens ‘probe’ humans and create crop circles?....


3 posted on 11/09/2023 7:17:01 AM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: RoosterRedux
in the 1400s people were using religious frameworks to describe what they saw in the sky. Today, people do the same thing, but now we live in an ostensibly ‘secular’ society and have achieved flight, so when people see unidentified aerial phenomena, they think of drones or something like stealth aircraft, and maybe UFOs

This was what Jacques Vallee said.

ps: Whatever they want, the answer is no.

4 posted on 11/09/2023 7:18:56 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Yep.


5 posted on 11/09/2023 7:21:32 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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"On November 7th, Pasulka’s latest volume hits bookstores, offering answers, but also raising new and important questions about that very [UFO] issue....

"Pasulka recently agreed to an interview about her work, her new book, and the emergence of a new form of religion tied to aliens, artificial intelligence, and high technology."
I quit reading then, but there's 30 seconds of my life I'll never get back.
6 posted on 11/09/2023 7:23:27 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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"Then, there was a UFO conference near me, and based on my friend’s suggestion, I attended it."

I heard Michael Heiser (RIP) say he made a point of attending UFO conferences because of the opportunities they provided for him to make his case for Christianity.

7 posted on 11/09/2023 7:30:50 AM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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I read the whole thing, unfortunately. She doesn’t explain anything. I have no idea what she thinks they are.


8 posted on 11/09/2023 7:30:51 AM PST by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: Flag_This
Yep. I've read Heiser's "Unseen Realm" several times (very thick book and loaded with heavy material to boot). BTW, I recommend it highly...I am a big fan of his.

His conclusion re: UFOs (that they are related to the angelic/spiritual realm) makes a lot of sense.

9 posted on 11/09/2023 7:40:36 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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Well, whatever aliens they are, I think they're just adorable!


10 posted on 11/09/2023 7:42:05 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: RoosterRedux

This is a fascinating topic that should not be dismissed out of hand. A study of Heiser’s books led me to Graham Hancock’s Supernatural, where he cites some of the same studies that are mentioned in this article. I’m beginning to believe there is something to this. If these phenomena have been with us for ages and ages, then their reality is more likely. Are they extra-terrestrial or from another realm of existence? It’s seems increasingly more probable the latter, to me.


11 posted on 11/09/2023 7:44:48 AM PST by trad_anglican
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She is one of the smart ones—even when I disagree with her I learn new things from her.


12 posted on 11/09/2023 7:46:42 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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"I've read Heiser's "Unseen Realm" several times"

I bought a copy and read it last year. I thought it was great. I've also listened to numerous podcasts, both his own and shows where he was a guest. He always had something informative to say.

13 posted on 11/09/2023 7:49:07 AM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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14 posted on 11/09/2023 7:49:37 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: roving
I have no idea what she thinks they are.

She doesn't know what they are. She does mention that it "appears" that they are not "aliens" in the classical sense. Whatever they are (and I don't think anyone knows at this point), they appear to be related to the paranormal or occult (as much as they want to be perceived as "aliens" flying around in nuts and bolts craft).

I read Pasulka's book American Cosmic and am currently reading her new book, Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences.

15 posted on 11/09/2023 7:49:41 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: roving

A great place to start is this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Flying-Saucers-Modern-Things-Skies/dp/0691018227


16 posted on 11/09/2023 7:50:15 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: Sirius Lee

HAHAH. Poor kid.


17 posted on 11/09/2023 7:50:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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Throughout history they were described based on their primitive understanding of science and physics. Everything not understood was supernatural to them.

But they have been around forever, even in spirituality. But they are not all evil as proposed by the faithful now. Even in Christian times past they knew better.

http://images.redframe.com/worldufophoto/800/STRANGE—UFO%20IN%20RELIGIOUS%20PAINTING.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/09/5c/0d/095c0dcd0b7b528d6c7e9bbcad10387b.jpg

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https://truedemocracyparty.net/wp-content/uploads/ufo-n-art4.jpg

https://www.supernaturalresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/GlorificationEucharistSalimbeni.jpg

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https://truedemocracyparty.net/wp-content/uploads/ufo-n-art5.jpg

https://www.soulask.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/hf-46-768x472.jpg

http://sciencereligiononline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/maryufo21.jpg

https://www.ancient-origins.net/sites/default/files/field/image/UFOs_0.jpg

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https://www.ufointernationalproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/6733062515317cff71440bc57c6d165c.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xkzCAN3O7vg/Ub_SZXW-2YI/AAAAAAAAFPE/vfRMq3lT3FU/s1600/Ancient+UFOs+(40).jpg

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https://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Indian-UFO-Alien-Encounter-Cave-Painting-2.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f5/7c/79/f57c799f661deeb05e8edb370dad4b03—sacred-geometry.jpg


18 posted on 11/09/2023 7:51:12 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: roving
roving: "I read the whole thing, unfortunately. She doesn’t explain anything. I have no idea what she thinks they are."

That's the gimmick; you have to buy the book. In carnival slang, it's called "drawing the tip" (attracting a crowd of people to buy tickets to the sideshow).

19 posted on 11/09/2023 7:51:49 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Carl Vehse

It’s a book review. If you don’t like book reviews, don’t read them.


20 posted on 11/09/2023 7:53:05 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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