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UFOs and Aliens Are (Probably) Not What You Think: An Interview with Diana Walsh Pasulka
europeanconservative.com ^ | Rod Dreher

Posted on 11/09/2023 7:14:58 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: RoosterRedux
Here, we see the convergence of two powerful modern developments: the belief in UFOS, now ratified by our own government, and the reality of a potentially self-aware human creation, AI. This is a unique moment in human history, to put it lightly. We are witnessing a myth meet or become reality.


By these measures the author mistakenly believes she is bolstering her argument.

Wrong.

Anything “ratified by our own government” - is immediately suspect. Further, the nonsensical belief in self-aware artificial intelligence - still amounts to pure science fiction.

41 posted on 11/09/2023 8:47:34 AM PST by yelostar (Spook codes 33 and 13. See them often in headlines and news stories. )
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To: BenLurkin

“Whatever they want, the answer is no.”

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Agreed, and not just simply no, but hell no along with a big middle finger.

While I have my own belief as to whom and what they are, and where they are from, whatever they want is not beneficial for us. They are here and do what they do for their own purposes and none of it is altruistic or good.

The simplest and best description I have for them is “deceptive and evil”.


42 posted on 11/09/2023 8:49:23 AM PST by Murder of Crows
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To: Openurmind

I agree, but just like the quote from Hamlet in the article, there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophy. BTW, in Elizabethan times what science they had was called “philosophy”. While I suspect that there is a spiritual side to the visiting entities, I also suspect that some are from other distant civilizations, if only because they evidently use technology, including manufactured craft to come here. I think that once we learn more about the nature of consciousness, much of what we see as extraterrestrial visitations will fall into place. Aldous Huxley once wrote that consciousness was like a giant reducing valve which took in the overwhelming cacophony from our senses and filtered out what was absolutely necessary for our survival and increase. This implies that there is much that we sense but can neither see nor process in our normal worldview.


43 posted on 11/09/2023 8:52:17 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: RoosterRedux

Far too much extra non-essential verbage, making it all 100% more a story about the author’s investigation than anything substatially material about the UFOs/UAVs.


44 posted on 11/09/2023 9:04:25 AM PST by Wuli
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To: RoosterRedux

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2PoXfZdYVU

UFO.... from 1970


45 posted on 11/09/2023 9:11:46 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Boogieman

There were many crop circles made by human hoaxers.

But—if you dig a bit deeper there are some real ones that will blow your mind.


46 posted on 11/09/2023 9:14:46 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: RoosterRedux

If by chance you are interested in Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO’s) and what is real and what is not, home grown; you may want to watch this video with Steven Greer. It is a multifaceted subject and by necessity can’t be explained in just a few words so it is a little bit long, but it is worth watching.

https://youtu.be/p2hk8Qp8dd0?t=14


47 posted on 11/09/2023 9:17:27 AM PST by Saintgermain
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To: RoosterRedux
RoosterRedux: Er, not all book reviews are entitled "Book Review."

A book review is defined as "a thorough description, critical analysis, and/or evaluation of the quality, meaning, and significance of a book, often written in relation to prior research on the topic."

Dreher's interview was not a book review.

BTW, it's worth spending a little time trying to alert readers as to what Dreher's interview is and is not.

48 posted on 11/09/2023 9:22:39 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Carl Vehse
Don't tell me that you actually looked up "book review" and posted a link. Good Lord, man. Talk about wasting your precious time.

Anyone ever tell you that you're an in-the-box thinker? I'll bet you ask your mommie to starch your underwear.

From you: BTW, it's worth spending a little time trying to alert readers as to what Dreher's interview is and is not.

Ya think?

You think "readers" need to be alerted as to what an interview is or is not?

Heheh. Wow.

49 posted on 11/09/2023 9:30:48 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: PUGACHEV

“Aldous Huxley once wrote that consciousness was like a giant reducing valve which took in the overwhelming cacophony from our senses and filtered out what was absolutely necessary for our survival and increase. This implies that there is much that we sense but can neither see nor process in our normal worldview.”

Absolutely, well stated and I agree. Everything is energy. Consciousness is like the alcohol in water phenomenon. You can add 50ml of alcohol (10%) to 500ml of water and the total volume will not increase. The added volume cannot be detected because the alcohol molecules can fit in between the water molecules. This is how it is with consciousness. It is there but undetectable because it does not physically displace or affect anything so that we would notice. It is real and interlaced in everything and all energies we just can’t detect it.


50 posted on 11/09/2023 9:34:42 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: RoosterRedux
RoosterRedux: "I'll bet you ask your mommie to starch your underwear."

You now show that, having nothing substantative to state, you are having to resort to tossing ad hominems pulled out of your keister.

51 posted on 11/09/2023 9:37:26 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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bkmk


52 posted on 11/09/2023 9:42:02 AM PST by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31 )
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To: The Louiswu; RoosterRedux; Openurmind

Allow me to cut to the chase, so to speak.

Faster than light travel is possible. The ‘secret’ is that the object traveling must have ZERO mass.

Human minds SEE what they know or expect to see. An example: You need your car keys. You don’t see them where you thought they should be. You think someone moved them or you put them somewhere else and you can’t remember where that would be. You search your house thoroughly and can’t find them anywhere. Eventually you return to the spot where you thought they should have been and .... there they are.

They were there , all the time. It is YOU who, for some reason, IMAGINED they were not there. Your mind conformed REALITY to your IMAGINATION, temporarily.

In the Bible it is said that God created mankind in his IMAGE. Was that the proper translation or was the original intent the word IMAGINATION ?

The IMAGINATION is one of the most powerful forces God gave mankind. I believe that is what Jesus meant when he said that we had the same ‘powers’ as him, possibly even greater.

Other than nature itself (trees, plants, etc) everything we have and use (including the internet and the keyboard you type on) we CREATED with our IMAGINATION.


53 posted on 11/09/2023 9:57:19 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on flight MH370)
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To: Carl Vehse
Ad hominem? Do you think a playful little joke like that is an ad hominem?

Teasing someone about their starched underwear isn't exactly an ad hominem.

That's more of a friendly poke in the ribs.

54 posted on 11/09/2023 9:58:57 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: dragonblustar
A lot of this reminds me of the WEF prophet who talks about trans humanism and being gods through merging with AI.

Did you ever see the movie "FORBIDDEN PLANET" ?

55 posted on 11/09/2023 10:04:10 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on flight MH370)
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To: UCANSEE2

That is another whole fascinating concept in it’s self. Manifestation of the physical realm, and even the future.


56 posted on 11/09/2023 10:08:35 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: cgbg

“if you dig a bit deeper there are some real ones”

I’d counter that instead of “real ones” we can just say “ones that hoaxers have not yet claimed”.


57 posted on 11/09/2023 10:30:47 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

It turns out there are ways to tell the real ones from the fakes—you need to do the research if you really care about this stuff.


58 posted on 11/09/2023 10:35:28 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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RoosterRedux: "Teasing someone about their starched underwear isn't exactly an ad hominem."

Really?! You try that spindoctoring excuse after all of these explanations and discussions on what an ad hominem is?!?

59 posted on 11/09/2023 10:35:37 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: minnesota_bound
Yeah. What's with that ‘’probing’’ thing?

Do they mean to say that these supposedly highly intelligent, extraordinarily technologically advanced beings are coming here across the vastness of space just to go rump ranging and ''probing'' humans? Bunch of intergalactic perverts if you ask me. "Hey! Stay in your own part of the universe ya weirdos!''.

60 posted on 11/09/2023 10:41:40 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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