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Why some of Latin America's leftist leaders are against abortion and gay rights Leftist leaders have scrapped progressive values and embraced traditional "family values" ...in what a human rights activist called an "alarming trend."
.nbcnews.com ^ | Nov. 1, 2021 | Carmen Sesin

Posted on 11/12/2023 11:27:07 AM PST by daniel1212

Peru’s newly elected president identifies as a Marxist and is against gay marriage.

Nicaragua’s once revolutionary president is against abortion.

Leftist leaders across Latin America, like Andrés Manuel López Obrador in Mexico, are scrapping progressive values to maintain electoral coalitions

Back in the 1960s and '70s when leftists ruled countries in Latin America, their movements focused on the plight of the poor and their economic conditions. In the 2000s, Latin America’s "pink tide" of leftist leaders, like Brazil’s Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, embraced progressive social movements.

But as the evangelical church began to grow in Latin America, a region that is deeply Roman Catholic, leftist leaders began scrapping progressive values and embracing “family values,” along with leftist economic policies....

these are still very religious countries, and in some cases, increasingly evangelical countries, where conservative social positions and machismo rule the day.”..

Angelo said some of the region’s leftist governments became deeply mired in corruption while failing to deliver a sustainable economic transformation. ... Back in the 1980s Ortega, identifying as a Marxist, had favored the legal right to abortions — but has since spoken out against it....

"It is concerning that many leaders, even those self identifying as progressive or leftist, continue to feed the regressive context in the continent, with anti-rights positions," said Erika Guevara-Rosas, Americas director at Amnesty International.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: catholicevangelical; latino; revival
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1 posted on 11/12/2023 11:27:08 AM PST by daniel1212
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So, is the takeaway that countries go anti-abortion and homosexual rights lose ground as the Catholics decline and the Protestants gain ground? Makes sense with what we’ve seen from the left wing Anti-pope running the Vatican these days.


2 posted on 11/12/2023 11:53:16 AM PST by PAR35
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Gay “rights” would not be an issue if they’d keep their perversion to themselves and out of our faces.


3 posted on 11/12/2023 11:53:48 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: PAR35

Not to mention Orthodoxy is gaining. So you know the Russians also have a hand in it.


4 posted on 11/12/2023 11:55:33 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: daniel1212

The sugar coating

Is laced - thick in s America

The arsenic - stricnynne is fatal


5 posted on 11/12/2023 11:57:57 AM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: PAR35

The original bolsheviks had strongr traditional sexual moral values than today’s leftists — and even some of the dirty old men here on FR.


6 posted on 11/12/2023 12:22:48 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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The original bolsheviks had strongr traditional sexual moral values than today’s leftists — and even some of the dirty old men here on FR.

Actually Trotsky was relatively a libertine in such matters. Stalin, on the other hand, was much more socially conservative.

7 posted on 11/12/2023 12:23:48 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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The original bolsheviks had strongr traditional sexual moral values than today’s leftists — and even some of the dirty old men here on FR.
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Actually Trotsky was relatively a libertine in such matters. Stalin, on the other hand, was much more socially conservative.
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Lenin was married, although one of his critics — I think it was Stalin — thought his wife was whore.


8 posted on 11/12/2023 12:35:22 PM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: JimRed
Gay “rights” would not be an issue if they’d keep their perversion to themselves and out of our faces.

Many do, which still is immoral, but to keep it as a private option is contrary to the nature of the movement, for it is contrary to the nature of the serpent behind it. Who, in his lust for power, manifested in his original self-willing selfish presumptuous rebellion, seeking to sit in the administrators position, works to pervert, misuse and abuse all that God created and established as right and good, because it is, and reflects, honors, gives glory to the one true God, whose position and power the devil seeks by creating a perverse world which reflects his power (which God allows, with restraint, as it makes the ability to make choices meaningful, and revelatory of what is in the heart of man).

Beginning with just the 10 commandments, this economy of God extends from the worship of Him as being the only omniscient, omnipotent, infallible eternal being worthy of being man's God - and thus the ultimate source of security and object of allegiance, and of spiritual affection - versus some finite created source,
to the intrinsic value of innocent life from the womb to the grave (thus requiring loss of life for unjustly, unlawfully taking it) versus abortion and euthanasia,
to general reverence to valid authority (versus anarchy) beginning with parents,
to the recognition of male and female, with only them (as eligible) being joined in marriage, with all other sexual unions being damnable fornication, versus the sexual revolution ethos,
to the right of exclusive private contracts, versus adultery, etc.,
as well as the right of private property versus stealing, socialism and envy.

That true Christian believers "wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places (Ephesians 6:12) explains the comprehensive attack on all that reflects God's wisdom and glory.

The Big Picture: who is really running the show in the culture war, and its nature and trajectory

9 posted on 11/12/2023 12:41:52 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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I refer to Mexico’s Marxist leader by his formal name:

“El Presidente Andrés Manuel López Obrador Pinché Puto Pindejo”


10 posted on 11/12/2023 1:25:31 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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Killing the children means you have no future. Gays, once again are a dead end as far as the future goes.

This is just reality.

11 posted on 11/12/2023 1:28:21 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: PAR35
So, is the takeaway that countries go anti-abortion and homosexual rights lose ground as the Catholics decline and the Protestants gain ground? Makes sense with what we’ve seen from the left wing Anti-pope running the Vatican these days.

It began long before Francis, and it is evangelical, Scripture-centric type believers, who have experienced the basic but profound effect of regeneration thru penitent, heart-purifying, effectual faith in the Divine Son of God and Lord of all, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) which is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is shown in baptism and following the Lord, that sets them apart from the typical Catholic and Protestant, thanks be to God.

However, Western affluence has done to true believers what Communism and adversity could not. We/I need to better DARE TO BE A DANIEL | Philip P. Bliss, 1873 [listen]


Standing by a purpose true,

Heeding God’s command,

Honor them, the faithful few!

All hail to Daniel’s band!

Refrain:


Dare to be a Daniel,

Dare to stand alone!

Dare to have a purpose firm!

Dare to make it known.


Many mighty men are lost,

Daring not to stand,

Who for God had been a host

By joining Daniel’s band.

Refrain:


Hold the Gospel banner high!

On to vict’ry grand!

Satan and his hosts defy,

And shout for Daniel’s band.

12 posted on 11/12/2023 3:30:20 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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Killing the children means you have no future. Gays, once again are a dead end as far as the future goes. This is just reality.

Not due to that, any more than they become homosexuals due to being so by birth. It is the nature and nurture of the West that fosters this.

Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. (Ezekiel 16:49-50)

13 posted on 11/12/2023 3:33:12 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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If you look at it from a religious standpoint but the people you are talking about will not.

So rather than trying to force them to see things that way I just point out that from a purely practical viewpoint supporting unrestrained abortion and sodomy is death for a society.

Reducing evil in the world is a worthy goal.

14 posted on 11/12/2023 3:40:52 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
If you look at it from a religious standpoint but the people you are talking about will not.

I understand, and I usually do appeal to reason with such, but what seems reasonable it based upon some presuppositions. And without a sure supreme substantive moral standard, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" can (in some minds) warrant facilitating abortion, homosex, etc. Thus I seek to point that out, and the need for a sure supreme substantive moral standard, meaning the Bible as the proven beneficial judge, despite abuse of it.

So rather than trying to force them to see things that way I just point out that from a purely practical viewpoint supporting unrestrained abortion and sodomy is death for a society. Reducing evil in the world is a worthy goal.

However, in the minds of promoters of infanticide, reducing population is a worthy goal, while "love" sanctions all fornication and perversity.

15 posted on 11/13/2023 6:57:14 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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You are attempting to change their thinking so they will hopefully change their actions. I work to get them to change their actions in the hope that I can through that change their thinking.

Of course for the babies it does not matter.

16 posted on 11/13/2023 8:49:56 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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