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Update from Ukraine | Why Putin Failed in 2023 and will Fail in 2024
Youtube.com ^ | 12-31-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 12/31/2023 7:44:22 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: gleeaikin

>RevMom probably gathers these pieces of information (or what you mistakenly refer to as propaganda) over a period of a number of hours, then delivers them to the comments process one after the other, and gets on with her day.<

It’s been proven that mommy doesn’t even read most of the garbage she posts.


41 posted on 12/31/2023 9:17:31 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Depends on what you mean by failure. Putin occupies 20% of Ukraine. Putin has forced the West to drain their treasuries along with their stock of war material. Putin is cleansing his nation of undesirable types through human wave meat attacks. The West is being triangulate in focus between Ukraine, Middle East, and Taiwan. But I digress.


42 posted on 12/31/2023 9:22:12 AM PST by buckalfa (Gut feelings are your guardian angels)
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To: gleeaikin
Thanks for your clarification and incorrect notion of propaganda embedded therein. Everyone does propaganda, even you.
2
: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3
: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause

Merrian-Webster -- propaganda

"information, ideas, opinions, or images, often only giving one part of an argument, that are broadcast, published, or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people's opinions:" Cambridge Dictionary - propaganda

"In the 20th century, the English term propaganda was often associated with a manipulative approach, but historically, propaganda has been a neutral descriptive term of any material that promotes certain opinions or ideologies.[1][3] Equivalent non-English terms have also largely retained the original neutral connotation."

Wiki - propaganda

You might disagree, but propaganda is propaganda is propaganda.
Master of American Propaganda PBS, American Experience

Powers of Persuasion The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration

Propaganda is everywhere Stanford University The US Press Again Becomes a Conduit for Pro-war Propaganda CATO Institute

Next time you seek to 'correct,' be correct first.
43 posted on 12/31/2023 9:22:21 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Sacajaweau; bimboeruption; lefty-lie-spy

44 posted on 12/31/2023 9:24:54 AM PST by 4Liberty (🦅STAND🦅WITH🦅TRUMP🦅)
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“I signed several decrees on honoring our warriors and our gratitude to them – address by the President of Ukraine”
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Those are conscripts, men in their 70’s, boys as young as 13, women (saw video of women in trenches, mercifully it was recorded before their position was shelled). Dead people have no use for Zelensky’s empty, meaningless, fake ‘gratitude.’
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45 posted on 12/31/2023 9:25:26 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: House Atreides

Yes, they need someone in control who will do as they are told to do which is push the homo agenda and fill the place with imported people from all over the globe.


46 posted on 12/31/2023 9:26:22 AM PST by dforest
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To: lefty-lie-spy

>Yeah, this gal is insane. Why do they keep allowing her to take over FR with her mental problem?<

mommy has received at least 2 warnings from the owner of this site:

To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Respectfully, this is America. Christian America. Our history does not include ‘GLory’ to anyone other than to God. All Glory to God.
Less propaganda would be appreciated.
43 posted on 12/2/2023, 11:36:05 PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
As I said, less propaganda would be appreciated.
48 posted on 12/2/2023, 9:50:52 PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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Yet she chooses to ignore the warnings on a daily basis.

mommy claims to be a Christian “REVEREND” but she refuses to submit to those in authority as the Bible instructs. IMHO, she’s getting paid to post.


47 posted on 12/31/2023 9:27:23 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: Kazan; UMCRevMom@aol.com; BabaOreally; Monterrosa-24; Timber Rattler; Widget Jr; Vermont Lt; ...

“It has lost the Donbas, which is a rich region in terms of natural resources and industrial capacity.”

Oh my, a true statement amidst all the propaganda, and certainly one of the reasons Putin has attacked Ukraine so brutally in his neurotic, paranoid search for safety through riches.

It is also true that Russia has wealth in oil and important minerals. But the big question is how long he will keep them as China looks with interest at Siberia, and the various ethnic groups Putin is killing off as Russian soldiers in Ukraine contemplate revolt and freedom from this dictatorship? It will be interesting to see how well the Arctic oil industry does this winter since the US companies with their superior equipment and arctic knowhow are now long gone.

If Russia’s new, better trained soldiers are true Russians, they may soon revolt against boss Putin, unless current conditions at the front are seriously improved. If these new, better trained soldiers are from the ethnic minorities that are NOT “true Russians”, then how soon before they turn this better military knowledge against oppressor Putin?


48 posted on 12/31/2023 9:28:03 AM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority)
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To: gleeaikin

https://www.google.com/search?q=Donbass+special+status&oq=Donbass+special+status&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigAdIBCDcxMjZqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


49 posted on 12/31/2023 9:35:11 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: bimboeruption; UMCRevMom@aol.com

Apparently you have failed to notice RevMom stopped using Glory in this way some time ago. Your continuing to push this as a complaint could be considered as propaganda on your part. Perhaps JR should take notice of that fact.


50 posted on 12/31/2023 9:35:17 AM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority)
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To: ransomnote

>Those are conscripts, men in their 70’s, boys as young as 13, women (saw video of women in trenches, mercifully it was recorded before their position was shelled). Dead people have no use for Zelensky’s empty, meaningless, fake ‘gratitude.’<

I like how in his Address to the Nation, Zelensky refers to them as “guys” as if he’s their buddy.

What a jerk.


51 posted on 12/31/2023 9:35:39 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: bimboeruption
---- ".... the “reporters” would lose income..."

This assertion -- unlike many assertions made -- can be verified by looking back.

Oct 8, 2022

Artur Rehi -- "My channel is now demonetized because I cover the war."

Be sure and read the First comment on that YouTube page. It is from Davydov. "Dude, I have the same problem now😔. Patreon is the only option to keep us going. Guys, many thanks for your support on Patreon."

This is particularly interesting as the first comment on that video is from Davydov, who wrote: "@DenysDavydov - 10 months ago - "Dude, I have the same problem now😔. Patreon is the only option to keep us going. Guys, many thanks for your support on Patreon."

YouTube Temporarily Demonetizes Russian Channels And Restricts Access To Them In Ukraine Forbes, Apr 14, 2022

Turns out: The following YouTube Jake Broe YouTube video is VERY instructive.

Am I in Trouble? Ukraine YouTubers Are Being Demonetized

You see, the matter of "income" for these YouTube vloggers was VERY important. Or as Artur Rehi worried, in paraphrase, SEND MONEY!

A small sidenote for this particular sometime source of the thread: He operates a "merch" store as well. Estonian soldier store

All the more interesting when one learns that the domain is not registered with a European registrar.....

And for only $27.....

The Jake Broe video is HIGHLY recommended for the players therein. Enjoy.

52 posted on 12/31/2023 9:37:40 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: dforest

I agree. If this war lasts through 2024 to 2025, Zeepers here will still be saying “next year is gonna be real bad for Ruzzia.”

We are broke. B-R-O-K-E and these people here continually keep harping, praying, oppressing us for more ‘broke’ so that Zelensky can get his money/arms/soldiers.


53 posted on 12/31/2023 9:39:05 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: gleeaikin

>Apparently you have failed to notice RevMom stopped using Glory in this way some time ago. Your continuing to push this as a complaint could be considered as propaganda on your part. Perhaps JR should take notice of that fact.<

It’s a good thing for her that she finally figured out how to use the “Find in page” function.


54 posted on 12/31/2023 9:39:44 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Well, we all thought you were just updating twice a week.. are you now doubling/tripling down to every day?


55 posted on 12/31/2023 9:41:34 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: bimboeruption
--- "Those are conscripts, men in their 70’s, boys as young as 13, women (saw video of women in trenches, mercifully it was recorded before their position was shelled). Dead people have no use for Zelensky’s empty, meaningless, fake ‘gratitude.’ I like how in his Address to the Nation, Zelensky refers to them as 'guys' as if he's their buddy. What a jerk."

There is historical precedence.


56 posted on 12/31/2023 9:43:36 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: bimboeruption
So as not to miss out the fact that many nations have used children....
See the effects of war, conflict on Ukraine's children USA Today, 21 July 2022

Nothing in this suggests thugs on either side are "good guys," but rather than there are thugs warring, and children "play" a role. An ugly role.
57 posted on 12/31/2023 9:50:38 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
From one of the many Uke merch sites:

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58 posted on 12/31/2023 10:14:16 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

>Nothing in this suggests thugs on either side are “good guys,” but rather than there are thugs warring, and children “play” a role. An ugly role.<

I wonder if any of those little boys survived battle.

Heartbreaking.


59 posted on 12/31/2023 10:22:47 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: 4Liberty

Your meme is a scream!

It it OK if I steal it?


60 posted on 12/31/2023 10:25:50 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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