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1 posted on 12/31/2023 12:53:14 PM PST by Dacula
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Recent threads on the issue of Natural Born citizenship of had hundreds of replies here on Free Republic.

There is no Free Republic consensus on this subject. I don’t know if the 14th amendment has anything to do with presidential eligibility.


2 posted on 12/31/2023 12:58:52 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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14th Amendment Birthright Citizenship: A Fraud on the Constitution
3 posted on 12/31/2023 12:59:55 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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It doesn’t matter. No one is going to vote for Hatchet Face anyway.


4 posted on 12/31/2023 1:00:45 PM PST by Venkman
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Has the Natural Born Citizen or the Anchor Baby issue ever been decided in the Supreme Court?


6 posted on 12/31/2023 1:06:46 PM PST by Bernard (We honor veterans who fought to keep this country from turning into what it now is. --Argus Hamilton)
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What about anchor babies?


7 posted on 12/31/2023 1:07:23 PM PST by Dacula
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Federal Courts have supported the automatic citizenship of Anchor Babies (except for foreign diplomat babies) since the 1890s.

To my knowledge, the Anchor Baby - automatic citizenship issue has never been challenged in the Supreme Court.

Also, to my knowledge, the Anchor Baby - Natural Born Citizen (eligible for President) issue has never been challenged in the Supreme Court.

8 posted on 12/31/2023 1:09:38 PM PST by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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Obama getting elected twice effectively nullified the NBC requirement.


10 posted on 12/31/2023 1:15:46 PM PST by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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Please help.

Can’t, until the federal court system rules on the subject its simply a matter of opinion. The court have never addressed the issue.

Since the court refused to take the case of Obama, it is now the accepted legal standard that citizenship granted at birth whether by blood or place meets the standard.


11 posted on 12/31/2023 1:18:58 PM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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Obama is a peculiar case. It is not certain that his father was even Barack Hussein Obama Senior, native of Kenya (18 June 1934 – 24 November 1982). His genetic father was more likely Frank Marshall Davis (December 31, 1905 – July 26, 1987), an American journalist, poet, political and labor movement activist.

I want to see a DNA test. It may turn out, that neither man was Barack Hussein Obama’s genetic father, and that would muddy things up a lot.


12 posted on 12/31/2023 1:21:41 PM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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You must think the constitution means anything anymore....


13 posted on 12/31/2023 1:23:36 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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The key term in the 14th Amendment is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof". Nimrata Randhawa was born to two Indian parents and she, as they, were subject to the laws of India at the time of her birth.

If her parents decided to leave the United States, the United States had no jurisdiction to stop them from taking her with them, again, because they were not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States until they became citizens years later.

15 posted on 12/31/2023 1:26:21 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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He also stated that anchor babies who are born in the United States are automatically US citizens. I disagree.

Your friend is correct. You don't have to like it. I don't like it. But that's the law.

16 posted on 12/31/2023 1:27:06 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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Even if she got the nomination it would be a total blow out. She might win a handful of states.


18 posted on 12/31/2023 1:30:24 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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My thought is that her parents were NOT citizens at the time she was born, therefore she is not eligible. Similar to Obama.

That's the view of NBC conspiracy theorists who cannot point to "their" definition of NBC. She was born in the US, therefore like Vivek she is eligible. That she is a horrible choice for president is a separate matter.

Questions about Obama's eligibility on the other hand were due to lack of a birth certificate, not parents' citizenship status.

19 posted on 12/31/2023 1:36:31 PM PST by libh8er
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Babies born in USA (50 states) are citizens.
18USC ch12 (III)(1) 1401
If you are born in the USA there is no stipulation that your parents have to US citizens. It just is by law.


20 posted on 12/31/2023 1:38:17 PM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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Sorry 8 USC (12) (III) (1) 1401
I’m usually dealing with 18USC so I fat fingered it.


22 posted on 12/31/2023 1:40:01 PM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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https://thefederalist.com/2018/11/02/heres-key-clause-birthright-citizenship-debate-briefly-explained/


28 posted on 12/31/2023 1:49:27 PM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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my parents were not US citizens when i was born in the US and I am a citizen.


29 posted on 12/31/2023 1:49:29 PM PST by ronniesgal (The bidens are actually more white trashy than the Clintons, and that's sayin' something)
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I’m not a Haley fan at all, but my understanding is that she wasn’t an anchor baby because her parents were here legally and followed the law (not US citizens, but with a green card, I guess). Since her parents were subject to the jurisdiction of the US, she is legitimately a natural-born US citizen. (This is not the same as Obama, whose birth is still shrouded in mystery.)

Haley would still be a terrible choice for the Presidency (or the Vice Presidency) though.


30 posted on 12/31/2023 1:50:08 PM PST by Alvin Diogenes
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‘’’Nimarata’’’ Nikki Haley (née Randhawa.


40 posted on 12/31/2023 2:06:39 PM PST by dljordan
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