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What's an anti-Trump 'conservative'?
Mother Jones ^ | Jan 27 | By David Corn

Posted on 01/28/2024 2:46:04 AM PST by RandFan

I almost feel sorry for the anti-Trump-but-more-anti-anti-Trump conservatives.

I know—you had to read that sentence twice. I’ll explain.

These are right-wingers who oppose Donald Trump—because of his efforts to overthrow the 2020 election, or his often-incoherent policies, or his utter lack of decency, or his destructive influence on the right, or all of the above—but who devote more energy to decrying liberals for overreacting to and for persecuting Trump. I’m not referring here to Never Trumpers like neocon Bill Kristol or the gang at the Lincoln Project—those onetime Republicans who have readily joined forces with Democrats and progressives to oppose Trump. This is a different group of conservatives who strike a rather complicated stance. They see Trump as bad for the republic, but they cannot yield that age-old position (or reflex?) that the greatest threat to the nation is from the left. This can tie an anti-Trump-but-more-anti-anti-Trumper into knots. As I witnessed just the other day.

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I was invited to appear on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal to discuss the New Hampshire election results. The other guest was Rich Lowry, the editor-in-chief of the National Review, which was once the flagship publication of the conservative movement. I like Rich. Years ago, we used to tour college campuses debating each other on policy and politics

Earlier this month—days before the Iowa caucuses—the editors of the National Review urged Republican voters to pick either Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley over Trump. They reminded their readers that Trump lied about the 2020 election results, attempted to bully his vice president “into violating his oath,” and then did little or nothing when his brownshirts attacked the Capitol. “These were infamous presidential acts and represented serious offenses against our constitutional order,” the magazine observed.

(Excerpt) Read more at link.motherjones.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: davidcorn; davidcornball; davidcornholio; iamcornholio; richlowry
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So Lowry is the only example he can come up with and Rich Lowry is an arrogant neocon akin to Kristol and his publication totally compromised in my view
1 posted on 01/28/2024 2:46:04 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

“What’s an anti-Trump ‘conservative’?”

An America-hating person who calls himself a ‘conservative’.


2 posted on 01/28/2024 2:57:27 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL

The author doesn’t get it even though he likes “Rich” and debated him.

In those days Rich was a big Bush lover and in favor of Iraq war. He hasn’t changed a bit but the GOP has.


3 posted on 01/28/2024 2:59:13 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan
“What’s an anti-Trump ‘conservative’?”

A fantasy being pushed by the Left.

4 posted on 01/28/2024 2:59:38 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Yeah it’s more like wishful thinking to splinter off votes I guess.


5 posted on 01/28/2024 3:00:37 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Wouldnt an anti-anti-Trumper be FOR President Trump ???

That 2nd anti would cancel out the first one ...


6 posted on 01/28/2024 3:00:45 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: RandFan

You’re a sadist posting Corn here, nothing worth reading or responding to


7 posted on 01/28/2024 3:02:13 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: BobL
An America-hating person who calls himself a ‘conservative’.

You are correct sir.

8 posted on 01/28/2024 3:03:59 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: RandFan

An anti-Trump conservative is fiscally responsible liberal. They believe in social programs, but they are less willing to run run deficits to finance them.


9 posted on 01/28/2024 3:04:04 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: RandFan
They see Trump as bad for the republic, but they cannot yield that age-old position (or reflex?) that the greatest threat to the nation is from the left.

That's because the greatest threat to the nation is from the left, David Cornball. Answer me this: who is trying to take people's guns? Who threw the border wide open? Who sparked all those riots in 2020? Etc.

10 posted on 01/28/2024 3:07:44 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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Lowry has long been a Neocon NeverTrumper. Its no wonder he went along with the Steal and readily parroted the Democrats’ lies about the stolen 2020 election as well as the Jan 6 Fedsurrection.

Hardly anybody reads the National Review anymore. Soon it will probably go the way of the Weekly Standard.


11 posted on 01/28/2024 3:08:11 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Absolutely spot on and what I think which is why I found the distinction strange.


12 posted on 01/28/2024 3:11:18 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

NR claims Trump lied about the 2020 election theft?

They are beyond uniparty compromised, which shouldn’t really be surprising, considering their CIA roots back to their founding.


13 posted on 01/28/2024 3:12:45 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The author and certain people he CALLS conservatives are buddies.

Tells you everything.


14 posted on 01/28/2024 3:13:34 AM PST by RandFan
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To: 9YearLurker

I think in thrall to either the state or weapons manufactures

Not sure...

It’s strange. Like FLT said similar to the Weekly Standard and Kristol they are.


15 posted on 01/28/2024 3:14:52 AM PST by RandFan
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There really is no separating out the state and the weapons manufacturers, as far as interests and influence go.


16 posted on 01/28/2024 3:17:03 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Yeah agreed. Follow the money.

These organs serve a purpose I suppose.

I really hope Trump is serious about shaking things up...


17 posted on 01/28/2024 3:19:23 AM PST by RandFan
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To: Mount Athos

I’m surprised it let me post that site here - I thought it would say No (Ha!).

Sometimes I find it interesting to read what they’re saying.

Who knew their favorite “type” of “conservative” would be a raging Bushie, pro-War neocon fanatic like Lowry.

Interesting times.


18 posted on 01/28/2024 3:24:08 AM PST by RandFan
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” I like Rich. Years ago, we used to tour college campuses debating each other on policy and politics...”


He sounds like UniParty politicians decrying the end of “bipartisanship”. where they would “debate the issues” then go off to the bar and be friends.

The politicians were play-acting in a fake fight for the rubes, and Corn and Lowry the same.


19 posted on 01/28/2024 3:40:56 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; RandFan

AKA, BigCon grifters. If the money stream disappears, so will they. Corn has been attached to the underside of BigCon like a sea lamprey.


20 posted on 01/28/2024 3:41:02 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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