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All ATSC 3 TV Tuners will EXPIRE & More DRM News
YouTube ^ | January 29, 2024 | Lon Seidman (as LonTV)

Posted on 02/03/2024 8:50:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Republican Wildcat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drZzpu_LzrM

Another by same guy that in your first link said internet not required.


61 posted on 02/05/2024 7:41:40 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Republican Wildcat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClxgUunmeE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZSezS6B1_0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nUN5nKvLCc

More from the same guy that said internet not required!


62 posted on 02/05/2024 7:43:17 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Varda

“For us audio/video buffs it’s all the hi-fi quality of the content. However that’s not how content providers are viewing it. ATSC 3 allows the addition of DRM (digital rights management) which can make it impossible to record or even view content without authorization.”

DRM compliant ATSC 3.0 tuners for TV’s and OTA DVR’s are already on the market.


63 posted on 02/05/2024 8:07:09 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Varda

“ATSC 3 is a different (and rare standard in very few TVs) that allows 4k signals over the air and high quality audio.”

Rare in middle to low end TV’s. Common in high end LG, Samsung, Sony and Hisense.


64 posted on 02/05/2024 8:37:32 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Varda

“They can’t track you through ATSC 1.”

They can’t track you through ATSC 3.0.


65 posted on 02/05/2024 8:54:34 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
More from the same guy that said internet not required! Another by same guy that in your first link said internet not required.

Completely and totally false. Not what those videos portrayed at all. He's been one of the leading voices sounding the alarm of ATSC 3.0 and DRM encryption.

You're the same person I believe who argued over and over again that BluRay and DVD discs were the same on another thread.

66 posted on 02/05/2024 8:09:17 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: TexasGator
I love it when people post links that prove themselves wrong! “Internet connection NOT required” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxnW3ed9yR4

Literally entire video is about DRM encryption.

67 posted on 02/05/2024 8:19:54 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

“Literally entire video is about DRM encryption.”

And embedded in the video is the author’s confirmation from PEARL and other sources that ATSC 3.0 will work without an internet connection.


68 posted on 02/05/2024 8:47:53 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Republican Wildcat

“Completely and totally false. Not what those videos portrayed at all.”

Those were of access using no DRM verification. Since then those external tuners have been updated and will operate on encrypted ATSC 3.0 broadcasts.


69 posted on 02/05/2024 8:50:27 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Republican Wildcat

“A New ATSC 3.0 Nextgen TV Tuner With DRM Support is Coming That Won’t Need Internet to Work”

https://cordcuttersnews.com/a-new-atsc-3-0-nextgen-tv-tuner-with-drm-support-is-coming-that-wont-need-internet-to-work/


70 posted on 02/05/2024 9:35:42 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Republican Wildcat

” He’s been one of the leading voices sounding the alarm of ATSC 3.0 and DRM encryption.”

And in your first linked video reconfirmed that internet was not required.

I guess you didn’t bother to watch it.


71 posted on 02/05/2024 9:38:30 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Republican Wildcat

None of this should be noticeable if you have a smart TV with an ATSC 3.0 tuner, as it should already have the necessary keys to decrypt these locked-down channels. It also doesn’t affect channels that use the current ATSC 1.0 standard, which broadcasters are required to support for at least another four years.

But if you were an early adopter of external ATSC 3.0 tuners such as the HDHomeRun Flex 4K or Bitrouter ZapperBox, you won’t be able to watch any encrypted channels. These devices launched without DRM support before broadcasters started encrypting their channels, and while they plan to support DRM in the near future, the complications of doing so has led to numerous delays.


72 posted on 02/05/2024 9:59:04 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Republican Wildcat

None of this should be noticeable if you have a smart TV with an ATSC 3.0 tuner, as it should already have the necessary keys to decrypt these locked-down channels. It also doesn’t affect channels that use the current ATSC 1.0 standard, which broadcasters are required to support for at least another four years.

But if you were an early adopter of external ATSC 3.0 tuners such as the HDHomeRun Flex 4K or Bitrouter ZapperBox, you won’t be able to watch any encrypted channels. These devices launched without DRM support before broadcasters started encrypting their channels, and while they plan to support DRM in the near future, the complications of doing so has led to numerous delays.


73 posted on 02/05/2024 10:00:40 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Republican Wildcat

https://www.techhive.com/article/2198439/why-you-might-finally-want-atsc-3-0-in-2024.html

(The industry’s encoding rules do prohibit restrictions on recordings, but only for content that is simulcast in ATSC 1.0.)


74 posted on 02/05/2024 10:01:30 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Yes, I said that.


75 posted on 02/06/2024 6:17:26 AM PST by Varda
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To: TexasGator

LG is dumping ATSC 3.


76 posted on 02/06/2024 6:30:10 AM PST by Varda
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To: TexasGator

“They can’t track you through ATSC 3.0”

Tracking you seems to be the point of ATSC 3 /DRM for the content providers. A thread I followed (on a tech forum ) on this subject indicated that they would be tracking for ratings purposes.
This blog page indicates it can do much more.
https://blog.lon.tv/2023/08/02/atsc-3-drm-is-worse-than-we-thought/


77 posted on 02/06/2024 6:35:39 AM PST by Varda
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To: Varda

“Tracking you seems to be the point of ATSC 3 /DRM for the content providers.”

ASTC 3.0 OTA is ONE-WAY broadcast. No tracking unless you CHOSE to use internet or 5G service.


78 posted on 02/06/2024 8:38:23 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Varda

“LG is dumping ATSC 3.”

Suspending till patent issues resolved.


79 posted on 02/06/2024 8:40:59 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You are forgetting the increasing use of DRM on ATSC 3 channels which is what I’m complaining about.
Not all channels are encypted yet.
Here is a listing of ATSC 3 channels including some places where most of the channels have DRM.
https://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=atsc3


80 posted on 02/06/2024 8:53:41 AM PST by Varda
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