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Experts reveal what caused Buddy Holly’s plane to crash 65 years ago today
Nypost.com ^ | 02/03/2024 | Hillary Andrews

Posted on 02/03/2024 4:29:47 PM PST by Bonemaker

So many sing about “the day that music died” on Feb. 3, 1959, when Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and J.P. “The Big Bopper” Richardson were killed in a plane crash.

Don McLean coined the term in his 1971 hit “American Pie.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: buddyholly; crash; getthereitis; music
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The Day the Music Died. Kind of true. Take away: believe your instrunents.
1 posted on 02/03/2024 4:29:47 PM PST by Bonemaker
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To: Bonemaker

What difference at this point does it make?


2 posted on 02/03/2024 4:33:24 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Bonemaker

The kid flying the plane was not qualified in instrument flight.


3 posted on 02/03/2024 4:33:57 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Bonemaker

The plane was vaxxed, I knew it!


4 posted on 02/03/2024 4:34:44 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: Antihero101607

Must have been a Boeing.


5 posted on 02/03/2024 4:35:05 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Bonemaker

Free basing. Holly was a pioneer.


6 posted on 02/03/2024 4:40:58 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Bonemaker
The pilot wasn't instrument rated. He shouldn't have even been flying in that weather.

The Last Flight of Nine Four November

7 posted on 02/03/2024 4:44:57 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Bonemaker

so what was it???


8 posted on 02/03/2024 4:45:16 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“”What difference at this point does it make?””

Oh! Dear - I just finished an email to an old and I mean OLD, high school friend and she asked me why we spend so much time trying to find out who died and when! IOW what difference does any of it mean?

I had to say, “I really don’t know.” Except the information is so easy to find on the internet...We live far apart from one another and I guess it’s one way to stay in touch with the old home town...She’s there and I’m not; both widows and we enjoy staying in touch but~~~~~~~~~~!!


9 posted on 02/03/2024 4:46:19 PM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: Bonemaker

I read the autobio of Dion DiMucci of Dion and the Belmonts who was on that tour. He said the people in charge of that tour were complete morons. They gave them school buses meant for delivering school kids locally and used it to tour half the northern country in the dead of winter. And these were the buses that have a single heater by the driver. It got so cold their drummer had to be hospitalized for frost bite, plus he said the bus would constantly break down.

To me that’s what killed them, they would have never taken that plane if they had a tour planned by pros. My theory is they had no respect for rock and rollers back then, they saw them as stupid kids and easy marks to rip off. Ritchie Valens was only 17,


10 posted on 02/03/2024 4:51:12 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: Chode

I thought it had iced wings and was in a snowstorm

I saw pictures of the crash - yikes 😳


11 posted on 02/03/2024 4:51:32 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Chode
so what was it???

The same as what the Civil Air Board determined in 1959:
The Board determines that the probably cause of this accident was the pilot’s unwise decision to embark on a flight which would necessitate flying solely by instruments when he was not properly certificated or qualified to do so. Contributing factors were serious deficiencies in the weather briefing, and the pilot’s unfamiliarity with the instrument which determines the attitude of the aircraft.


There's no new information in this article, despite the the clickbait title implying something new. The pilot made the horrendous decision to fly in conditions at night that would require him to navigate by instruments alone, which he was not qualified to do. He subsequently flew the plane into the ground.
12 posted on 02/03/2024 4:52:11 PM PST by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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To: ought-six

Not qualified to fly a plane???? The more things change....


13 posted on 02/03/2024 4:52:43 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Now I understand what Hitlery meant when she said that. What she was really saying was "What difference at this point does it make? I know I will never be charged with a crime because I'm above the law" They wouldn't even charge the bitch with criminal neglect


14 posted on 02/03/2024 4:54:30 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: Bonemaker
There is a great documentary, The Day The Music Died, In which Don McClean relates his journey into writing the iconic song and what inspired him. I highly recommend it.
15 posted on 02/03/2024 4:55:16 PM PST by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: Bonemaker

Gravity


16 posted on 02/03/2024 4:56:03 PM PST by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TThose look good)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“What difference at this point does it make?”

All I saw has been public knowledge for decades.


17 posted on 02/03/2024 4:57:06 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I have always wondered why some of the hottest acts in the pop music world were traveling long distances on unheated buses through the upper Midwest in the middle of winter. One would think they would have had enough money to fly on private planes wherever they wanted to go.


18 posted on 02/03/2024 4:57:16 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: P8riot

Thanks for that. I printed it for later reading. Found out this week that a 1978 Cessna 152 had crashed that my husband and I bought from one of our flying club members. He was the original owner and told me the plane had crashed years ago in weather ignored by the pilot.

We had it on our flight line and sold it when we left CA. Talked to the guy we bought it from and he said it had crashed in Julian, CA - WEATHER related - no survivors...the pilot had rented it from a flight operation at Gillespie Field in San Diego....Weather gets everyone if they aren’t paying attention and that pilot obviously didn’t. The old saying is - “There are old pilots and bold pilots but no old bold pilots.”

No one needs to be reminded about the helicopter crash that Kobe Bryant and his daughter and others were killed in - more ignored weather!!! It was 4 years ago this January that happened - it was covered last week on “How It Happened.” Lessons for everyone if they’d only listen!
My husband flew for nearly 50 years both military and general aviation and instructing - a stickler for SAFETY!


19 posted on 02/03/2024 5:09:47 PM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“”They wouldn’t even charge the bitch with criminal neglect””

Or bad acting!!!


20 posted on 02/03/2024 5:10:38 PM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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