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A Western Consensus Is Brewing
American Thinker ^ | 16 Feb, 2024 | J.B. Shurk

Posted on 02/16/2024 6:05:23 AM PST by MtnClimber

There have been murmurs for at least the last ten years about the potential for civil war in the United States. Polls have shown that roughly half the country believes that future conflict is likely. The intrusion of unchecked government power into every crevice of our private lives has transformed politics into a high-stakes cage match in which furious citizens fight to survive. Because government exerts so much control over citizens, winning control of government has become an existential imperative. Such zero-sum thinking has fractured society and pitted Americans against one another.

However, something fundamental has been shifting beneath our feet. If you look at how civil conflict has been discussed on websites and internet forums over recent years, a noticeable trend emerges. Talk of “civil war” between various coalitions of states transformed into calls for “independence” from tyrannical government on par with America’s 1776 founding. In turn, calls for an American-style “revolution” against government abuse have transformed into the kind of rage against a “permanent ruling class” that existed before the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror.

This shift is significant. “Civil war” connotes a feeling that Americans will be fighting one another. A “1776-style struggle for Independence” reflects a belief that the federal government must be brought to heel. Widespread discussions of how to rid the country of an unaccountable bureaucracy with more allegiance to fellow globalists from the World Economic Forum than to fellow citizens from America’s heartland reveal a growing recognition of and antipathy for an entrenched ruling aristocracy.

Governments don’t mind when citizens quarrel. In fact, that old “divide and conquer” scheme is Washington’s favorite tactic for keeping Americans too busy fighting one another to notice what kind of mischief is going on in D.C. Governments would prefer that citizens not speak about “freedom”

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: civilwar; collapse; communism; despotism; freedom; liberty
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1 posted on 02/16/2024 6:05:23 AM PST by MtnClimber
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I think a collapse is more likely than an uprising. And half of the country will be too uninformed to notice the collapse. Everything is fine.


2 posted on 02/16/2024 6:05:41 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: MtnClimber

There will not be a uprising. The Coup of 2020 proved that. And the theft of the 2024 assures the completion of the complete and total destruction of the United States of America and what it represented.


3 posted on 02/16/2024 6:09:45 AM PST by sport (!)
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To: MtnClimber

“I think a collapse is more likely than an uprising. And half of the country will be too uninformed to notice the collapse. Everything is fine.”

Agreed. I’d take it a step further and say that more than half of the country is oblivious to loss of freedom. Politics has become a team sport, and many Americans just want their team to win, and they don’t know why.


4 posted on 02/16/2024 6:11:01 AM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: MtnClimber

An excellent article.


5 posted on 02/16/2024 6:13:52 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: MtnClimber

I think a collapse is more likely than an uprising. And half of the country will be too uninformed to notice the collapse. Everything is fine.

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Yep...there will be protests...perhaps some vandalism and violence here and there, but a full blown civil war...highly unlikely. We’ve already had our Civil War (just like Rome did). After that it was emperors all the way until the “fading away” was complete.


6 posted on 02/16/2024 6:14:07 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: brownsfan

At least half the country has no desire, or respect, for freedom, and they seem to be the half that seems most comfortable with chaos and disorder.


7 posted on 02/16/2024 6:16:56 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Freedom of Choice, is what you’ve got
Freedom from Choice, is what you want

-DEVO


8 posted on 02/16/2024 6:18:10 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MtnClimber

Will the civil war be states in unison rebelling against Federal Government or simply the red states, in some form of loose unrecognized compact, walking away from the blue states who adhere to big government rule by ignoring Federal and Supreme Court mandates? I think the former rather than the latter? If red states walk away, who in the blue states, would join a blue states military to fight to keep the union together. Last time I looked, blue states don’t do military. Patriotism is not their thing.


9 posted on 02/16/2024 6:22:34 AM PST by chuckee
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Can the red states be able to afford going on their own? That’s the big question. Right now the federal government supports the red states much more then the blue states.


10 posted on 02/16/2024 6:33:08 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Bishop_Malachi

That’s the sad part. The people who brought on the collapse, or who voted for politicians who destroyed our economy, will be the ones blaming everyone who didn’t support it and can see it coming. The ones who are preparing had better be prepared for state administrated confiscation of property, because that’s exactly what they will do in “times of suffering”. Hording will be a criminal offense. Having lifestock or land to grow food on will require you to share or be charged with crimes against public health.


11 posted on 02/16/2024 6:38:11 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: MtnClimber

the media has been doing everything it can to stoke violence and division.

of course, they’re just the mouth piece of the left.

the goal of the left has been to destroy the country any which way they can... and has been since the 60s.


12 posted on 02/16/2024 6:41:37 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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IMO, a Civil War as most people think of (i.e., states vs states) really isn’t possible. The problem is big urban and metropolitan leftism against rural and non urban growth populations. Cities vs ‘the country,’ if you will.

My advice is to pick a non-urban place to live, find a job you like where there is no mass-transit access or easy interstate access and wait it out. Most of these cities only have maybe a month’s worth of supply resources and when trucking, rail and air resupply fails, things will very quickly devolve into urban warfare and violence, and not having easy access to/from there would be advisable.

Lastly, if you don’t have any guns, get some.


13 posted on 02/16/2024 6:48:33 AM PST by Gaffer (Ok. November is soon approaching and we'll see how steadfast Biden's UKR distraction holds.)
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To: napscoordinator
...the federal government supports the red states much more then the blue states.

I hear that bullshit a lot, but fed.gov does NOTHING for the tax-paying red stater.. or blue stater for that matter.

Besides his share of a standing army and federal infrastructure (interstates etc.) a productive self-producer gets NOTHING from fed.gov but a bill.

14 posted on 02/16/2024 7:16:23 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: MtnClimber

In a civil war, the first to be taken out will be the propagandist in the media. Looking at CNN and MSDNC mouth pieces.

Banjo Boy and his adulterous wife, along with the homosexual Twinks (Willie and Hayes), your name is on a list. You will not escape or prevent the punishment headed your way. /spit


15 posted on 02/16/2024 7:17:46 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: MtnClimber

After the collapse there WILL be an uprising. But it’s the politicians who will likely be on the receiving end of the movement, imo.


16 posted on 02/16/2024 7:28:51 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: napscoordinator
Right now the federal government supports the red states much more then the blue states.

A lot of that is military spending because military bases and plants were built in the South because it was cheaper and part of the political compromises involved in funding WWII.

The bigger issue is the currency and entitlements like Social Security, Medicare, etc. On the one hand, Texas could always offer a currency backed by fossil fuels. On the other, Ft. Knox is located in Tennessee. Another big issue is the US debt: abandoned? Parceled out to the states?

17 posted on 02/16/2024 7:29:01 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: chuckee

It won’t be states.

It will be individuals.

Street by street, everywhere.

Bloody.


18 posted on 02/16/2024 7:41:40 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: Gaffer
Most of these cities only have maybe a month’s worth of supply resources and when trucking, rail and air resupply fails, things will very quickly devolve into urban warfare and violence, and not having easy access to/from there would be advisable.

A month? More like 3 days. The failure of sanitation alone will have the Four Horsemen galloping through urban/suburban areas like nobody's business. Just look at the spread of shigellosis in the majors even now.

19 posted on 02/16/2024 7:45:43 AM PST by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: MtnClimber
"Because government exerts so much control over citizens, winning control of government has become an existential imperative."

That is the genesis of our problems. Plus, while in the past, you could say that opposing sides agreed on goals but differed on how to achieve them, now they rarely agree on goals.

20 posted on 02/16/2024 7:50:55 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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