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Weekly Garden Thread - February 17-23, 2023 [Best Flowers to Plant with Vegetables Edition]
February 17, 2024 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 02/17/2024 5:36:12 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: edible; flowers; food; gardening; landscaping; vegetables
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1 posted on 02/17/2024 5:36:12 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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Wise Pairings: Best Flowers to Plant with Vegetables

Grow a profusion of pollen- and nectar-rich flowers among your crops to help boost pollination, control pests, and provide eye-pleasing pops of color.

By Rosalind Creasy

In the 1970s, when I was a budding landscape designer newly exciting about strategizing the best flowers to plant with vegetables, I attended the garden opening of one of my clients. As I walked around anonymously, wine glass in hand, I overheard many guests exclaiming, “Do you see that? She put flowers in the vegetable garden!”

In the United States, segregating vegetables from flowers still seems like such a hard-and-fast rule that when I lecture on edible landscaping, one of the first things I mention is that I’ve checked the Constitution, and planting flowers in a vegetable garden is not forbidden. Not only can you put flowers in with vegetables, you should.

I admit that, in the ’70s, I first intermixed my flowers and vegetables because I was gardening in the front yard of my suburban home and hoped the neighbors wouldn’t notice or complain as long as the veggies were surrounded by flowers. Soon, however, I discovered I had fewer pest problems, I saw more and more birds, and my crops were thriving.

It turns out that flowers are an essential ingredient in establishing a healthy garden because they attract beneficial insects and birds, which control pests and pollinate crops. Most gardeners understand this on some level. They may even know that pollen and nectar are food for insects, and that seed heads provide food for birds. What some may not realize is just how many of our wild meadows and native plants have disappeared under acres of lawn, inedible shrubs and industrial agriculture’s fields of monocultures, leaving fewer food sources for beneficial critters. With bees and other pollinators under a chemical siege these days and their populations in drastic decline, offering chemical-free food sources and safe havens is crucial. Plus, giving beneficial insects supplemental food sources of pollen and nectar throughout the season means they’ll stick around for when pests show up.

Envision an Integrated Edible Landscape

One of the cornerstones of edible landscaping is that gardens should be beautiful as well as bountiful. Mixing flowers and vegetables so that both are an integral part of the garden’s design is another key. Let’s say you have a shady backyard, so you decide to put a vegetable garden in the sunny front yard. Many folks would install a rectangular bed or wooden boxes, and plant long rows of vegetables, maybe placing a few marigolds in the corners, or planting a separate flower border. In either case, the gardener will have added plants offering a bit of much-needed pollen and nectar.

Integrating an abundance of flowers among the vegetables, however, would impart visual grace while also helping beneficial insects accomplish more. Plentiful food sources will allow the insects to healthily reproduce. Plus, most of their larvae have limited mobility. For example, if a female lady beetle or green lacewing lays her eggs next to the aphids on your violas, the slow-moving, carnivorous larvae won’t be able to easily crawl all the way across the yard to also help manage the aphids chowing down on your broccoli.

In addition to bringing in more “good guys” to munch pests, flowers will give you more control because they can act as a useful barrier — a physical barrier as opposed to the chemical barriers created in non-organic systems. The hornworms on your tomato plant, for instance, won’t readily migrate to a neighboring tomato plant if there’s a tall, “stinky” marigold blocking the way.

More at link: https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/best-flowers-to-plant-with-vegetables-zm0z15fmzsto/


2 posted on 02/17/2024 5:39:22 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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3 posted on 02/17/2024 5:40:23 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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Ros Creasy has been cultivating stunning plant combos for 40 years. She coined the term “edible landscaping,” which is now common lingo in the gardening world, and even penned the book 'Edible Landscaping.'


4 posted on 02/17/2024 5:50:35 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: 4everontheRight; Augie; Apple Pan Dowdy; Aevery_Freeman; ApplegateRanch; ArtDodger; AloneInMass; ...

5 posted on 02/17/2024 5:55:38 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: FRiends

6 posted on 02/17/2024 5:58:58 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Really look forward to these Saturday morning images.


7 posted on 02/17/2024 5:59:59 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: ArtDodger

I like posting the ‘Spring Countdown’ best these days! :)


8 posted on 02/17/2024 6:07:15 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Nice pic. Looks like marigolds, amirite? The only drawback I’ve experienced with marigolds is spider mites. Any tips on how to either prevent them in the first place, or to quickly send them straight to Spider-Mite Heaven?

Those evil things destroyed several of my rosemary plants too, a couple years back. Not fond of them at all.


9 posted on 02/17/2024 6:10:56 AM PST by AFB-XYZ (Two options: 1) Stand up, or 2) Bend over)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Thanks for ping. Been a while here for me, but can any one tell me what kind of flower this is (survived almost 0 degrees) if it is real:

84-flower

Meanwhile, garden remains fallow, with 3 months to go till planting toms (if I do), by the grace of God.

Fallow-Garden-2024


10 posted on 02/17/2024 6:39:22 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Flowers like marigolds also deter rabbits and deer some.

Since deer don’t like strong scents, I like to plant marigolds and dill in the garden.


11 posted on 02/17/2024 6:46:18 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: daniel1212

Daniel:

That shrub is a Euonymus. They are VERY hardy; a great landscaping plant.

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/shrubs/euonymus/euonymus-plant-varieties.htm


12 posted on 02/17/2024 6:54:08 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: metmom

I ran a bar of soap all along the top rail of our fence...and put chips along the edge of the garden.


13 posted on 02/17/2024 6:56:49 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: AFB-XYZ

I think you’re in a warmer Zone than me. I’ve never had Spider Mites on my Marigolds up here (Zone 5a) and they’re supposedly a ‘sacrificial plant’ that is used to lure Spider Mites in to keep them off of other plants, mainly tomatoes.

However, here are some things they say to do if you get them:

https://seedsandgrain.com/spider-mites-on-marigolds/


14 posted on 02/17/2024 6:57:34 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: AFB-XYZ
You can get something like this that is inexpensive and can do a lot of things: https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18V-Cordless-Battery-Fogger-Mister-with-2-0-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-P2850/307244559 

There are several organic concentrates or extracts that are good for gardens and around the house and can be used indoors. Also useful for things around (literally) the house like ants, mosquitos and for the perimeter of the house for pets like fleas.  Also for a double whammy one might use chrysanthemum flower varieties (check local availability or buy effective seeds and are perennial) will help.  Most of these 'organic' pesticides are made from chrysanthemum extracts or synthetic products, again check the product. Neem oil is OK but not useful in bigger plants, messy, and does not last very long.

I had an indoor Meyer lemon tree with spider mites all over it, didn't notice them until most of the leaves and blossoms fell off - yes, aphids too were hiding and likely did the most damage.  I probably brought them in on something else, being winter there a few ways: Put plants in a garbage bag and whisk them into the garage for treatment (above 32°) or in my case put them right in front of a sliding glass door on the threshold and quickly blast/rotate them, best of luck!

15 posted on 02/17/2024 6:59:49 AM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: Sacajaweau

I have Irish Spring, which I heard works the best, waiting in the wings to use.


16 posted on 02/17/2024 7:01:41 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Is Euonymus a native plant or invasive?


17 posted on 02/17/2024 7:03:16 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: metmom

That’s what I use, too.


18 posted on 02/17/2024 7:03:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; metmom

Anyone know how many days to daylight savings?


19 posted on 02/17/2024 7:08:28 AM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Snow storm at the new house last night - had to cancel a trip tomorrow (bummer - my brother was going to take his trailer, too).

Thursday was a trip day - hoping maybe the daffodils were blooming, but they’re just taller, no flowers yet. The house is on a knoll & the wind was really blowing - whipped my hair around so hard/much I almost got a sore head! I will be sure & take a hat & a band for putting my hair in a pony tail next time.

Truck needs an oil change, mower needs servicing, golf cart needs new batteries - all on the ‘to do’ list this week.

Spring will be most welcome.


20 posted on 02/17/2024 7:08:38 AM PST by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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