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Should IVF clinics divest themselves of Pornography? (sperm retrieval)
National Library of Medicine ^ | Timothy F. Murphy

Posted on 02/28/2024 9:10:06 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

Some commentators object to the way in which fertility clinics make pornography available to men as an aid to masturbation when those men produce sperm for evaluation, storage or IVF. These objections typically rely on claims that pornography is generally harmful to women, unnecessary and dissociates sexual acts from conception. In light of these objections, certain commentators want fertility clinics to divest themselves of pornography…

…Both the porn industry and sperm retrieval are predicated on metaphorical surrogacy. In both cases, a substitute takes the place of a human body and thereby severs the ancient link between orgasm in intercourse and conception. When a man provides a sperm sample at a fertility clinic, explicit materials take the place of physical foreplay. This arousal leads to ejaculation through autoeroticism rather than through partnered sex. As a man views print or video images of women, his sexual behavior is divorced from an actual association with an actual human body.

According to this interpretation, both pornography and fertility treatments presume sexual acts uncoupled from actual bodily interactions. In this way, pornography and fertility treatment objectify women, if only because both practices involve disembodied ‘sexual’ relationships that function to the disadvantage of women.

In view of these interpretations, Manning and Richie both want pornography excluded from fertility clinics. Manning would turn away even donated pornography, saying that producers are aware of what she calls pornography’s addictive nature.

(Excerpt) Read more at ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: bioethics; fertility; ivf; prolife; sex
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1 posted on 02/28/2024 9:10:06 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today.


2 posted on 02/28/2024 9:16:37 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Nuts. (No pun intended.)


3 posted on 02/28/2024 9:17:22 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Everything normal about males is being attacked. What’s next, are they gonna replace the pornography with pictures of fat, leftists skanks with pink hair in protests?


4 posted on 02/28/2024 9:19:09 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Using this logic medical marijuana should be banned as well.


5 posted on 02/28/2024 9:19:22 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

What’s of utmost importance to these Left loonies is to feel good about themselves. Doing good is actual work. Lying about being or doing good is always easiest. If it takes lies to feel good, then, truth be damned.

Both IVF and Porn deny the sanctity of human life.


6 posted on 02/28/2024 9:21:15 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Cuck porn for the IVF clinics:


7 posted on 02/28/2024 9:26:45 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: jacknhoo

So, you agree with what you assume are ‘left loonies’ about banning porn in IVF clinics?


8 posted on 02/28/2024 9:29:50 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Just go to Pornhub on your iPhone. Probably better off than whacking it to a paper magazine that might have someone else’s spunk all over it.


9 posted on 02/28/2024 9:31:09 AM PST by Drew68
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Ladies, could you lend a hand here?


10 posted on 02/28/2024 9:33:06 AM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: null and void

LOL!!!!

There you go!!!!!


11 posted on 02/28/2024 9:37:19 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: null and void
Ladies, could you lend a hand here?

So, you're talking IVF Vestal Virgins on the payroll?

12 posted on 02/28/2024 9:41:28 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I’d be all for it if they just sent in a hot nurse.


13 posted on 02/28/2024 9:41:28 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“BYOP”


14 posted on 02/28/2024 9:44:08 AM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

More toxic femininity. Hell, they even quote that old look Dworkin.


15 posted on 02/28/2024 9:44:44 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I live in Virginia. Recently, a law was passed that made all the porn sites deny Virginia citizens access to their sites. No more internet porn in VA. I support this law.

What I do NOT support is anything that inhibits IVF. See how it's not always black and white? All issues have nuance.

16 posted on 02/28/2024 9:45:41 AM PST by thefactor
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
So. . .equip them with 'Realdolls' ? Or those Chinese "Sperm Extractor" machines ??
17 posted on 02/28/2024 9:45:59 AM PST by Salgak
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To: thefactor

That law only requires age-verification before access. And it only works on sites with hosting in the US. A VPN can defeat it, as well as a number of apparently popular sites. . .


18 posted on 02/28/2024 9:48:36 AM PST by Salgak
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To: Jamestown1630

“So, you agree with what you assume are ‘left loonies’ about banning porn in IVF clinics?”

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The Left loonies want to ban the porn but not the child killing. That’s Left loonies lying to themselves to make them feel good about themselves. If they really wanted to be good, they would ban both the killing and the porn.

I hope that clears it up for you.


19 posted on 02/28/2024 9:57:13 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

IVF doesn’t necessarily involve ‘killing’.


20 posted on 02/28/2024 10:02:03 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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