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To: Red Badger

You can find isoleucine-rich foods in:

Lamb, Veal, and Game Products
Beef Products
Dairy and Egg Products
Legumes and Legume Products
Poultry Products
Nuts and Seeds

With the exception of the legumes, nuts, and seeds - I wouldn’t expect mice to be eating most of this type of stuff anyway, so it makes sense too much is a bad thing for them.


2 posted on 03/25/2024 1:12:45 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: reed13k

Smells like BS to me.

I remember when an article came out a few years ago saying that L-Carnitine causes cancer. Guess what has the most L-Carnitien? Beef

Were the rats given a natural diet, like they’d typically have in their normal environment, and then had isoleucine restricted? I highly highly doubt it. So, was there truly a control comparisson?

Also, look at that list. Animal products. Flesh, dairy, eggs and high protein vegetables. Well???? Guess what animno acids are. Protein!!! So ofcourse the list of foods high in isoleucine are high-protein foods!

It’s all more anti-meat propaganda, I strongly suspect.

Why didn’t they suggest eating insects is bad? Ooops


7 posted on 03/25/2024 1:18:33 PM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: reed13k
Recent studies suggest that too little or too much of anything is bad for us.

We really need to create a whole new Department of Nutrition. They can create meals that have the exact right amount of each nutritional element to keep us all as healthy as possible.

They could then come up with some sort of coupon system where we can bring our coupons to distribution centers and receive our weekly allotment of perfectly nutritious foods.

Why this isn't already the case is a complete travesty.

8 posted on 03/25/2024 1:20:30 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?action )
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To: reed13k

What about beer?


15 posted on 03/25/2024 1:42:21 PM PDT by Osage Orange (A)
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To: reed13k

It starts of with those who have a high BMI, fat people do consume too much, they could have stopped here. No fat residents at the old folks home.


17 posted on 03/25/2024 1:43:50 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: reed13k

It is more of what makes “nutrition science” utter garbage. “...research using data from a 2016-2017 survey of Wisconsin residents had found dietary isoleucine levels were linked with metabolic health and...higher BMIs...”

Yes, people eating the Standard American Diet AND also eating lots of “eggs, dairy, soy protein and meats” tend to be fat. And fat people tend to have bad health. But is it the essential amino acid, or all the carbs found in the Standard American Diet?

Well, let’s find out by studying animals (mice) that, as you point out, almost never eat stuff with high levels of isoleucine. “In the wild, they prefer grains, fruits, and seeds...Mice are particularly fond of these types of foods because they are high in carbohydrates which equates to lots of energy for these small animals that are always on the move. While their diet is primarily vegetarian...”

So while mice, like humans, CAN eat almost anything, it is likely their optimum health comes from eating foods low in isoleucine.

What about humans? Well, we sure can’t tell much from a survey in Wisconsin on people eating huge amounts of highly processed foods!

And it would be easy to find out how it works in humans because pretty much ANYONE eating a “Carnivore” diet would be eating a diet uncommonly high in isoleucine. And what happens to people on the Carnivore diet? Well...they tend to have great health! Not obese and certainly not struggling with diabetes and/or “metabolic health” issues, including obesity.

We KNOW the answer already. So what is driving this bogus “science”? Could it be vegans and the anti-meat people pushing their anti-meat agenda?


28 posted on 03/25/2024 2:39:08 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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