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Cruz: 2012 Disclosure Should Have Noted Goldman Sachs Loan
The Texas Tribune ^ | 1/13/16 | Patrick Svitek

Posted on 01/13/2016 7:44:54 PM PST by proust

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To: Amntn

Remember the deal. Cruz voted for TPA cloture, McConnell promised not to bring up the EXIM bank, McConnell did bring up EXIM, and then Cruz called him a liar.

McConnell got what he wanted and Cruz got cover for his vote.

Kabuki Theater?

Excellent!

GOPe and GOPe subversives always have an excuse for losing!


261 posted on 01/13/2016 10:45:48 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Zhang Fei

I live in a world where I’ve taken out margin loans at discount brokerage account at lower interest rates than Goldman offers. All I needed to do was write a check. Could I have liquidated the stock instead of going on margin? Sure - but I would have passed up any gains on the stock.


262 posted on 01/13/2016 10:46:14 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
I live in a world where margin loans are not some kind of influence peddling scheme.

No offense, but it seems to me you live in a world with blinders on.


263 posted on 01/13/2016 10:47:52 PM PST by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: nopardons

Super PAC research team. Either Jeb or Rubio.


264 posted on 01/13/2016 10:48:27 PM PST by jennychase
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To: Windflier

Actually I was laughing about that. You Trump supporters can talk about it all you want. Fact is that Cruz is running in good standing with all the required structures of the race.

Let’s put aside legal arguments as the misinterpretations are going nowhere for you people. The most that happens is that the Democrats bring a case to SCOTUS (doubtful because they know they will lose). Take a look at the current SCOTUS and tell me with a straight face you expect a ruling against Ted on this.

Ted wins his case that was fast tracked and viola... now he even looks like he was endorsed by SCOTUS.

Win-Win for Ted Cruz.

Thanks for adding FRiend. :)


265 posted on 01/13/2016 10:49:45 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Zhang Fei
Brokerage margin loans...

Thanks for the educated explanation, but this isn't about the propriety or legality (or even morality) of the loan. It's about appearances, and Ted's reaction to this revelation.

I don't think he handled it well. He came off like he had something to defend or be ashamed of. Too bad he doesn't have someone like you to counsel him as to how to explain it. Would have popped it like a soap bubble.

266 posted on 01/13/2016 10:50:22 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: nopardons
REALLY ? I wonder what that falling shoe will be about. Who is leaking this stuff, do you know?

Doesn't really matter. If Trump is doing so, kudos. If Cruz has anything good on Trump, he really needs to unload on him now. The GOP nominee needs to go through a baptism of fire, because the Democrats and the media definitely won't give him a break after the nomination. Whomever he turns out to be, we need a fireproof candidate.

267 posted on 01/13/2016 10:50:34 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: jennychase

Oh,Oh...........LOL.


268 posted on 01/13/2016 10:51:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Zhang Fei
I don't think that this is Trump's doing. The NBC stuff...yes, that's from Trump, because the WaPo started in on Trump about that.

This stuff about the loan? That's someone/s else.

The thing about Trump is that everything about him is a pretty open book and has been for decades.

But you're right.....in the general, the DEMS will go after our nominee tooth and claw. Trump can handled that, though. The others? HELL NO !

269 posted on 01/13/2016 10:55:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Windflier

The sticking point is NOT the loan....it’s that Cruz didn’t report it !


270 posted on 01/13/2016 10:57:16 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Berlin_Freeper
You're whistling past the graveyard.

Damage has already been done and things are going to only get worse for Cruz.

271 posted on 01/13/2016 10:59:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Windflier

Per the PPP, 50% of Iowa Republicans won’t vote for a guy born out of the country.

Trump sensed this, and it’s why he brought up the Constitution issue. He doesn’t really care about that, it was a way to bring up Cruz’s foreign birth and Cuban dad.

It’s over for Cruz.

This margin issue is a big nothing, unless they got some special deal on it.


272 posted on 01/13/2016 10:59:42 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: nopardons

It’s Win-Win for Ted.

Look up my prior post.


273 posted on 01/13/2016 11:00:40 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Let's put aside legal arguments as the misinterpretations are going nowhere for you people. The most that happens is that the Democrats bring a case to SCOTUS (doubtful because they know they will lose). Take a look at the current SCOTUS and tell me with a straight face you expect a ruling against Ted on this.

"You people"?

Listen, I'm doing my best to keep this conversation civil. Yes, I support Trump, but I'm no enemy to Cruz. He's simply not my first choice for Prez in this election.

As for your insistence that Ted would beat back a challenge to his eligibility before the Supreme Court, there's no guarantee that he would, except in your mind.

Given the makeup of the current court, it could go any which way. I actually hope that this current court never rules on it, because I don't trust them to rule in favor of the Framers' original intent.

Opinions about the definition of 'Natural Born Citizen' are wide and varied. There aren't just two sides to this - there are several. I'm sure you're aware of the many battles that have been fought over the issue right here on Free Republic. They've been fought across cyberspace, and even before there was an internet. Sadly, it's something that the Framers didn't carve in stone, and it's become a devil of an issue for all of us.

Especially Ted Cruz.

274 posted on 01/13/2016 11:00:53 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: jennychase

Who is saying ?

The biggest issue with Cruz is the whole Dominionist thing, which renders him unelectable in the general.


275 posted on 01/13/2016 11:01:07 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: nopardons
The sticking point is NOT the loan....it's that Cruz didn't report it !

That's half of my point. The other half is, Ted basically responded to this revelation with, "Ooops!"

Geeez, Louise. He couldn't have handled it worse.

276 posted on 01/13/2016 11:03:15 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I suggest that you remove your blindfold and take out the earplugs.

You're not only wrong, but don't know how to "count noses"; as the old time backroom boys used to say. But I do and it has NOTHING at all to do with whom I'm for.

277 posted on 01/13/2016 11:03:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Windflier

TRUE...he did NOT handle this well at all.


278 posted on 01/13/2016 11:04:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Windflier
"You people"?

Listen, I'm doing my best to keep this conversation civil.

My goodness you are hyper sensitive!

It's funny you say I have no guarantee when you are the one that started to me with your opinion. Which didn't stop you! LoL!

Nothing in your response changes the most likely Win-Win scenario for Ted. I was thinking this doesn't hurt Ted but now you convinced me it will greatly help him. Thanks. :)

Seriously, when "You people" becomes a flashpoint of aggression for you... take a rest. (I even called you FRiend...sheesh)

279 posted on 01/13/2016 11:09:30 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
If you're talking about the post a bit higher up, where you also used the stupid "win-win for Ted crap; you couldn't be more wrong if you tried to be.

Cruz isn't Obama, Rangle, nor Reid or even a Clinton. He can't get away with crap and saying "OOPPPPPPPPPS" doesn't help his case any at all.

Like whomever you care to, but PLEASE don't expect other to swallow, as whole cloth, the drivel you're promoting.

280 posted on 01/13/2016 11:10:38 PM PST by nopardons
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