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Stopping Trump: Karl Rove Leading Massive Effort Within Republican Party To Squash Trump’s Candidacy
The Inquisitr News ^ | February 27, 2016 | Nathan Francis

Posted on 02/28/2016 12:35:30 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Joe Boucher
Last election cycle, Rove had 200 million to waste as none of the slugs came out on top.

Why do folks still trust this moe?

According to articles I've read, he has a near encyclopedic memory for minutia relating to voting demographics down to near the precinct level. Kind of like a walking version of Obama's famed / infamous Orca program.

The problem is, (this sentence is MY opinion) he filters this knowledge through a DC mindset: such that people "really want" amnesty but just haven't been "educated enough" or people would really want gay marriage if just the correct number of ads propagandizing them; he really, really thinks that if you use the right focus-grouped phrases to tell them, people will believe you if you piss down their back and tell them it's raining. (Note the correct usage of it's as a contraction for "it is"...)

61 posted on 02/28/2016 7:44:11 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
According to articles I've read, he has a near encyclopedic memory for minutia relating to voting demographics down to near the precinct level. Kind of like a walking version of Obama's famed / infamous Orca program.

Orca was Romney's 2012 GOTV disaster. But Obama's 2008 campaign built upon the concepts Rove used in 2004 and then improved it for 2012. Hopefully, whoever gets the GOP nomination will do the same.

62 posted on 02/28/2016 8:29:56 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove and his pals are the ones destroying the GOP. Trump is bringing in new voters and growing the party. It’s time for Rove to retire.


63 posted on 02/28/2016 10:12:17 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: dirtboy
Yeah, so take it either way:

Whatever Obama's database effort was really called. (thorough)

Romney's Orca -- promised the moon but was an epic fail.

Either way fits Rove, depends on which aspect you which to emphasize.

(More graciously) -- I usually catch those kinds of details; thanks for pointing it out tactfully.

64 posted on 02/28/2016 11:27:44 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
I had a co-worker in 2012 who volunteered for the Obama campaign. She told me some of the details about the Obama GOTV plan and website. Very impressive. My main fear about Trump is he will not understand that he still has to have a good GOTV effort for the general. I hope his team will research the ORCA fiasco and learn lessons from it.

I know I emailed junior staffers articles about ORCA as an object lesson on how NOT to launch a system of any kind.

65 posted on 02/28/2016 11:32:31 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Romney made the same mistake Jeb did: relying on the DC-based GOP consultants: most of whom are "inbred" with others in the system, all of whom are in it for the money and not for love of conservatism, and a significant portion of whom, are liberal moles.

Trump tends to look for the most competent which money can buy, weigh their advice, and follow it where indicated. That being said, he is flying by his own instincts for the big picture right now, and doing better than any of the high-paid consultants said he ever could.

I honestly don't know who possesses the skillsets he needs for walking through the *logistics* of a national campaign (against all the Dem voter fraud / dirty tricks / "gotcha" questions, biased press and turncoats like the Romney consultants who openly backstabbed Palin)...who he can also trust is actually trying to *win*.

66 posted on 02/28/2016 11:37:02 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dirtboy

My main fear about Trump is he will not understand that he still has to have a good GOTV effort for the general. I hope his team will research the ORCA fiasco and learn lessons from it.


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67 posted on 02/28/2016 11:39:36 AM PST by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: grey_whiskers

I will say this about Trump and GOTV - both Rove and the two Obama campaigns had to invest in a lot of data and technology to increase their bank of potential voters. Trump is doing it through sheer force of personality. But building a serious GOTV machine will amplify that considerably.


68 posted on 02/28/2016 11:41:25 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: PraiseTheLord

Good idea, I’ll do that, thanks.


69 posted on 02/28/2016 11:42:30 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: grey_whiskers
(Note the correct usage of it's as a contraction for "it is"...)

It's sad that you had the need to note that. How many sad realities of life are there?

70 posted on 02/28/2016 4:44:37 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - already voted for Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: anton

Your words are so true and very sobering.
All the opinions flying around, the down and dirty opposition crap, all the trillions of comments just mean nothing anymore. The entire game has been exposed, and as sickening as it is, I am so thankful the truth is revealed for all to see.

I will never look at my government the same way again, and they have only themselves to blame.


71 posted on 02/28/2016 6:30:17 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Yes, and sadly, I will never look at the so-called conservative apparatus in the same way again. I grew up with William F. Buckley as a hero figure in my life and worked for Barry Goldwater as a teen. They would be mortified by what conservatism has become.

This whole experience is like a bad dream. Life changing. I won’t ever forget it.


72 posted on 02/28/2016 6:39:52 PM PST by anton
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To: 9YearLurker

Oh, I MIS spoke. I should have said the Greek or Polish lobbiests since we are well aware it’s their lobbiests crafting our statues with favors and payoffs to the oh so complicit politicians. The truth can be so offensive, so inconvenient.


73 posted on 02/28/2016 10:55:27 PM PST by chit*chat
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