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Hmmm: Trump under 50% in poll of New York for first time this month
Hot Air ^ | April 15, 2016 | Allahpundit

Posted on 04/15/2016 10:42:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Via Red State, not a huge deal but worth flagging in case there’s another poll this weekend showing his numbers dipping a bit in New York on the eve of the primary. That would suggest a trend, and that would be a big deal given what’s at stake. To be clear: Trump’s going to romp in NY on Tuesday night, winning by 25 points or better, and will pick up something like 75 delegates even in a worst-case scenario. But since his path to 1,237 is so difficult, it matters a lot whether he ends up with 75 in New York or 95, which is what he’d get if he sweeps the state. Every delegate he leaves on the table now will have to be made up for later; finishing with 75 in New York means he’ll likely need to find another 10-20 somewhere in California on June 7th, where he won’t have home-field advantage.

The reason this poll is significant (apart from the enormous 14,000-person sample size) is that 50 percent is a magic number in New York. If you hit 50 statewide, you get all 11 of the state’s at-large delegates. If you don’t, the second-place finisher gets some of them proportionally. More importantly, if you hit 50 percent in a congressional district, you get all three of that district’s delegates. If you don’t, you get two delegates and the second-place finisher gets one. There are 27 congressional districts, meaning that the difference between Trump hitting 49 percent in every district and hitting 50 there is … 27 delegates. That’s a big haul and potentially crucial to his ability to reach 1,237. (To put it in perspective, Cruz’s prize for sweeping Colorado’s delegate elections was 37 delegates.) So when a poll drops showing him at 49 percent statewide, we sit up and pay attention. The margins matter on Tuesday night. A lot.

If we direct our attention to the figure above, we can see that statewide he is also polling at 49%, so whether he’s able to take the statewide delegates by “winner-take-all” rules outright is up in the air. The even better news for Trump is that he’s hitting the 50% threshold in 11/27 districts and is within three percentage points of six more (see figure below). Just by keeping 50% in those 11 districts and a plurality in the others, Trump would get 65 delegates…

Further, if we look at shifts between the opinion shares we observed this week (4.11-4.13) and compare them to our last poll (3.22-3.24), we don’t see monumental moves against Trump across numerous districts (see figure below). We do note a generally favorable Kasich trend of between 2 and 6 points in most districts. While this is generally good, these shifts are unlikely to change the order of results, and thus unlikely to shift all-important delegate totals on Election Day. In other words, while we believe Kasich appears to be making some progress in many districts, it is not enough to change delegate totals significantly.

If Trump were to finish below 50 percent in 16 districts, that’s 16 delegates going to Kasich or Cruz (assuming the second-place finisher gets at least 20 percent of the vote, which seems inevitable in a three-way race). That’s … not a great outcome for Trump. If he also finishes below 50 statewide, that would cost him another four delegates by Phil Kerpen’s estimation. The last survey by this pollster, Optimus, taken three weeks ago had him winning 15 of New York’s 27 districts with an outright majority, meaning that he’s actually slipped a bit this month. A few days ago, Nate Silver published a state-by-state roadmap to the rest of the primaries and estimated that Trump needs 91 delegates from New York to stay on the path to 1,237. Silver’s more conservative projections of how he might do there put him in the low 80s. Optimus’s new data has him in the mid 70s. If there’s such a thing as having a “bad night” when you win a big state primary by crushing your opponents, that’s what it would look like.

But look: How likely is it, realistically, that Trump’s going to fall short in New York on Tuesday? Optimus found 14 percent still undecided in this poll. Among that 14 percent, 17 percent are already leaning Trump — more than are leaning Kasich or Cruz — and another 59 percent are still making up their minds. There’s every reason to think the bulk of them will end up tilting towards the native son who’s on TV 24/7. His average in NY at RCP over the last few weeks is 53.4 percent, with one recent poll putting him at 56 percent and another placing him at 60(!). There’s every reason to think he’ll crack 50 statewide and plenty of reason, I think, to believe that he’ll easily pull 50 in a majority of New York’s districts. If we’re being real, there are probably eight to 10 districts where there’s some suspense about the outcome, and the only suspense is whether Trump will win them with a plurality or majority. If his realistic worst-case scenario is, say, 88 delegates, then he’s basically still where he needs to be to clinch.

Here’s video of Ted Cruz speaking last night at the New York City GOP gala and finding himself roundly ignored, presumably because of his crack months ago about “New York values.” Trump can stand onstage at a national debate and smirkingly assure the country that he’ll issue illegal orders to the military and still be applauded by his local GOP, but God forbid you insult their parochial community pride.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


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To: cba123

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that ain’t no wall Trump has you going for, its a CLIFF. Happy landing.


121 posted on 04/16/2016 7:27:35 AM PDT by X-spurt (William of Ockham endorses Ted Cruz. 'the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If any of the polls include respondents that aren’t registered Republicans eligible to vote, then they are just fluff. I can totally see thousands of Trump voters showing up to vote and finding out they aren’t eligible.


122 posted on 04/16/2016 7:37:24 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: altura

Thank you.....can’t argue about Texas....it’s proven itself time and again...many other states are “jealous” and rightfully so....though I could do without the large concentration of Muslims.....for me the only down side. But so far Texans have appeared to handle them...probably because they all have guns and know how to shoot them!!! lolol


123 posted on 04/16/2016 9:11:45 AM PDT by caww
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To: timestax

Trumps a shyster fraud...and you’ve been had.


124 posted on 04/16/2016 9:44:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: eartick

tsk tsk....good one!


125 posted on 04/16/2016 9:44:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: patriot08
....."We need Donald, an outsider"..He speaks for us".... No we don't Trump and he's fully an "insider" and does not speak for me"......He's been playing politics for 30 years with the Demorat elites whom he identifies with as always.......so which side is he referring to??? Think!


126 posted on 04/16/2016 9:50:31 AM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another Cruz surge. lol


128 posted on 04/16/2016 9:57:25 AM PDT by McGruff (Rush Limbaugh: Jeb Bush could mount a convention comeback)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...Trump whines. We get that. He whines until he wins, as he puts it. .....The problem is that ‘he’s turning his supporters on FR into whiners’. Those tracks are all over FR. at the very moment that we need calculated strength and strategy, not whining.

Despite Trump having ample time to prepare, build a grassroots organization, and get his delegates elected, he completely failed to do so.....it wasn’t difficult, it wasn’t a hard one to decide...It’s complicated yes, but not anywhere in the realm of the new complications he would face as President........so if Trump can’t make the right decisions in state delegate selection process, and doesn’t even show up, how on earth can anyone believe he’ll be able to make the right decisions as Commander-in-Chief??? or even show up on behalf of this nation if he doesn’t for his own small campaign agenda???? or even have an agenda????

But let’s say this was stacked against him......Trump still failed to meet and overcome the challenges in a process that is much less difficult and far less fair than the challenges he would face as President. In fact he dropped the ball entirely.

It’s like striking out on three pitches from a junior high pitcher but saying,... “Don’t worry – I’ll hit home runs in the Big Leagues!”

Trump is demonstrating very clearly that he is way out of his league if he thinks he can be President.

socialnewswatch.com/2016/04/15/trumps-inability-navigate-primary-waters-harbinger-worrisome-presidency/


129 posted on 04/16/2016 10:22:55 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

130 posted on 04/16/2016 10:35:14 AM PDT by caww
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To: Sicon

But hey, they gots it going on 24/7.

Must take a whole team to pump our the TDS like they do. Finding the articles, spreading them out throughout the day, into the weekend......


131 posted on 04/16/2016 12:16:13 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: ghosthost

This is total bs. Trump walks in the convention with 1237. No doubt.

Trump train is too much fun to pass up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFlE5KNdOqk


132 posted on 04/16/2016 5:25:20 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: BlueStateRightist

You know what...thanks for pointing that out to me, my mistake.

The Optimus poll did have Trump ahead by 2pts from 3/22 - 3/24 in WI. Thanks!


133 posted on 04/17/2016 12:36:35 AM PDT by Rufus Shinra (Voting in my first primary in PA on April 26th!)
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