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The numbers are in: Trump wins Michigan by 10,704
The Detroit Free Press | November 23, 2016 | Kathleen Gray, Lansing Bureau

Posted on 11/23/2016 3:01:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/23/donald-trump-wins-michigan-votes/94360852/


TOPICS: Michigan; Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016michigan; 2016swingstates; 306; electoralcollege; hillary; mi2016; michigan; trump
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To: Paradox

Yes sounds fishy. Maybe they really tried, but Trump supporters were there to keep it from going totally absurd?


81 posted on 11/24/2016 9:06:01 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: DaveA37

I’m getting a little stressed thinking about that.


82 posted on 11/24/2016 9:06:36 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: chimera

I succinctly remember the whole Rossi-Gregoire scam. What puzzled me is why Rossi never fought it tooth and nail.

I don’t remember how close it was. But say Rossi was up 350 votes. The Gregoire camp comes back and says, “No, Pal it is us up with 150”. I would think it fair that I get to then check their numbers. That’s just me but seems like common sense.


83 posted on 11/24/2016 9:17:32 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sidebar Moderator
The most current data I found was from Nov 22, and you are correct. If we took out California, DT would be leading by net 1.2 million votes.

Basically there was 2.5 million “wasted” votes in CA for Hillary. The silicon valley hollywierd crowd and accolades loved Hillary and were not swayed by Donald Trump whatsover.

How many, I wonder, Californians answered the Fox News polls that were out by 5%?

84 posted on 11/24/2016 10:10:07 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Does anyone know the Electoral Percentage?

I do, it is 56%

Remember "Sundance" over @ "ConservativeTreeHouse" saying DJT would get 56% of the Vote? Well I think he was thinking popular, but But we got it electoral.

So, take out the estimated 2 to 3 million ( or more ) illegals voting with Motor-Voter, the Felons in VA and Nationwide, the Dead in Chicago, the outreach to Nursing Homes and Mental Hospitals in MA, and the Project Veritas driving people around in cars instead of Buses.

Oh ya don't forget the MA residents ( I won't call them "that" today ) getting a hotel room in NH and calling it their "Domicile" and voting in NH when they probably also voted in MA.

So with all that said, did she pad it 3 to 4 million?

IMHO Trumps Victory was probably bigger than we know, they just could out cheat his "Yuge" margins.

Thank G-d for a Republican Secretary of State in MI, WI etc that have rules that try to quell the cheating, ( Other than certain cities where they still run by their own rules )....

85 posted on 11/24/2016 10:20:15 AM PST by taildragger (Do you hear the people singing? The Song of Angry Men!....)
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To: Emergencyawesome

This article was the first that the Secretary of State gave the count, but you are correct, not certified until next Monday. Too far away.


86 posted on 11/24/2016 6:00:22 PM PST by madison10
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To: DaveA37

An Elector switching his vote for a reason other than being a kook would likely be replaced by the state or his vote not accepted by Congress. Relax.


87 posted on 11/24/2016 6:05:29 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Sam Gamgee
Rossi's team did file suit in a state court but as usual the court was reluctant to change the result handed down by election officials, even though the result was patently corrupt.

The 'Rats had to go through several iterations to get the result they wanted. Yes, Rossi was up by a few hundred votes on election night. Right away Fraudoire started bitching about how "It's not over!". The first "recount" reduced Rossi from a few hundred to 42. So the 'Rats went back and "found" a bunch of uncounted ballots, and those put Fraudoire up by seven (!) votes. That was too close even for the 'Rats, so they "found" some more ballots that put Fraudoire up by 127. The 'Rats thought that would do it. Given the corrupt courts in WA, it was.

88 posted on 11/25/2016 4:46:27 AM PST by chimera
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump will lose Michigan when the recount is done. 11,000 Hillary votes are waiting in a crackhouse somewhere in Detroit


89 posted on 11/27/2016 10:21:06 AM PST by Angels27
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To: Sam Gamgee

Voter turnout was way down in CA.Republican voters did not come at all. So much so, that Hillary is the first RAT in my lifetime to win Orange County. REPS did not vote because y knew Trump had no shot in CA becUse we had only two RATS to chose from in the Senate race. Plus, there are alot of Never Trump Republicans here too.


90 posted on 11/27/2016 10:31:19 AM PST by Angels27
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To: chimera

I wasn’t clear about that part of the story. Such utter bullshit. That they can count until they get the result they want. Makes me worry about these recounts that might happen now.


91 posted on 11/28/2016 11:48:53 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Angels27

Sort of the perverse logic of elections. Why vote if you are going to lose? I guess it makes sense, but I still consider it my civic duty to go out there and vote anyways. I mean I will take the effort to drive, park and go to see a movie. Why not to vote?


92 posted on 11/28/2016 11:50:37 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee
It was. And you are correct, they kept counting until they got the result they wanted. Rossi went to court because he knew this was his last, best chance to be Governor. Despite the hype, political rematches are seldom close, and when the rematch happened four years later it was Fraudoire in a walk.

What frosted my butt almost as much as the cheating was the 'Pub Secretary of State lying down for the 'Rats and "certifying" the fraudulent result. He should have had the guts to tear up Fraudoire's certificate and let the chips fall where they may. Instead he groveled and then had the gall to say that Rossi should accept the consolation prize of running for King County commissioner, a race where everyone knew he had no chance, and even if he did win it would have been a meaningless, powerless office in the face of seven or eight 'Rat votes against you.

The national 'Pub party did little to help Rossi in the Governor's race even though they convinced him to take the kamikaze ride. So he is cheated out of the Governor's seat and gets a one-way ticket to palookaville.

93 posted on 11/28/2016 2:48:04 PM PST by chimera
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To: chimera
Good to know at least Rossi fought it. I think I may have remembered the GOP being of no help at all.
94 posted on 11/30/2016 1:14:21 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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