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We missed what was so effective about Donald Trump’s campaign speeches
Vox ^ | December 6, 2016 | Mike Conczal

Posted on 12/11/2016 9:59:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve started to rewatch Trump rallies from the month before he was elected president. I’ve seen some of them before, but that was always with the presumption he was unlikely to win. Now I watch them trying to figure out how he did it, and how the Democrats can rebuild their economic message out of this mess....

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; campaignspeeches; economy; fakenews; hillary; jobs; realpropaganda; trump; trump2016; vox
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1 posted on 12/11/2016 9:59:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poor clueless liberal.


2 posted on 12/11/2016 10:03:48 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s always packaging to a libturd? Isn’t it?

they’ll never learn.

Oh well, better for us that they don’t


3 posted on 12/11/2016 10:08:28 PM PST by txnativegop (liberals are such an unending pain is my @ss!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Economic message...this is why they still don’t get it. Trump is about economic policies that will actually work. Style only works if there is substance


4 posted on 12/11/2016 10:08:32 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re still missing the fact that Trump is direct and concrete, and his policies will work. They are trying to “learn from Trump” so they can continue to try to manipulate us into their tired old policies that were never intended to work for us. Their goal is still to do whatever it takes to regain a permanent majority to enact their continued looting and weakening of our country.


5 posted on 12/11/2016 10:09:25 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Never trust a man with three consecutive consonants in his name.


6 posted on 12/11/2016 10:10:00 PM PST by Fungi (Having my fungus and eating it too.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the Democrats believe any of the totally off-base nonsense this man has written about why Hillary lost and Trump won, the Democrats will continue to lose and lose big.


7 posted on 12/11/2016 10:10:17 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“and how the Democrats can rebuild their economic message”

IOW, how they can repackage their lies.


8 posted on 12/11/2016 10:13:06 PM PST by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trumps appeal is easy to figure out, IMO.

1. He was a familiar name, face, and personae who was generally liked—even if he wasn't taken entirely seriously—and radiated confidence born of success.

2. He appealed directly to the people wherever they were and spoke with sincerity, delivered simple messages, with clear objectives.

3. He made friends of former opponents and built a coalition of support from them.

4. He campaigned in the general the same way he did in the primaries—he was never phony.

5. And perhaps most importantly: no matter who attacked him nor when, he was not afraid to fight back and often went on offense afterwards.
9 posted on 12/11/2016 10:17:08 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

blah blah blah

Here’s one for you liberal urinalists: Trump spoke directly to the people, in simple and clear language that everyone understood without talking-heads to translate for them. Liberals called him stupid, an embarassment, and the candidate with a 4th grade vocabulaty. So, let’s see them copy Trump’s style.

They couldn’t do it, they would choke.


10 posted on 12/11/2016 10:17:29 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New lies and new liars.


11 posted on 12/11/2016 10:18:38 PM PST by gogeo (That's my Trumpy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We need to talk about monopoly power, and the harms it causes, especially as Trump doesn’t take it up.

I bet this dweeb can't name a single monopoly that he as a Democrat is allowed to hate.

12 posted on 12/11/2016 10:19:57 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Yeah...”fix the message” — as if that’s the problem. That seems to be the only thing that they think is wrong. All they need is a better PR agency.


13 posted on 12/11/2016 10:23:35 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: BradyLS

He is what he is, no fakery with Trump for better or worse. That’s one strength a Democrat will never have, since they can’t come right out and be direct about what they actually want to do, they’ve got to speak in euphemisms and obfuscatory marketing-ese as the DC crowd perceives it.

He’s done what he’s done, and that’s quite a bit of accomplishment. That’s another strength a Democrat is highly unlikely to ever have, since their entire bench are political animals with no private sector exposure at all, let alone any private sector executive experience.

So, yet again, Trump is believable in this with his real world proposals, unlike Democrats who just do not know and indeed cannot know, what the hell they’re talking about as far as speaking to people who work for a living in the private sector.

It’s as if we’re on another planet to them, because to them we are, and it shows.


14 posted on 12/11/2016 10:26:07 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: BradyLS

Good summary. It was also critical that he simply doesn’t know how to spout the drivel and mush you hear from career politicians. He spoke plainly and from the heart, he had a substantive message, and he continuously drove it home. What did we hear from Clinton? Nothing at all.


15 posted on 12/11/2016 10:26:16 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The author sometimes gets close to being on target, but right before he hits the target, suddenly veers wildly off course. Which is good for us, since he still doesn't have a clue.

Trump talked about jobs. All the time. This gets lost in the coverage, which focused on the inflammatory scandals. [...]

It’s the first and most consistent thing he discusses. It’s implied that he’s speaking of a specific kind of job, a white, male, breadwinning manufacturing job.

No, actually its not implied at all that he is talking about white jobs. He is talking about jobs for Americans. Here's something progressives don't know, but Trump does. What is the number one concern in poll after poll for black adults? Jobs. Not police shootings, not racism. Jobs. Then education. When Trump speaks about jobs and failing schools in inner cities, he spoke directly to black middle class adults and their top concerns.

What Trump has done is put a wedge between the black middle class, the white blue collar, and illegal immigrants. The democrat party must choose which they will support. Any move to support illegals will be used by Trump to drive that wedge deeper until finally blacks and the blue collar will be all republican.

16 posted on 12/11/2016 10:28:24 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: RegulatorCountry

I recall that only 10% of obamas cabinet had any private sector experience. That was, and continues to be, a damning statistic for them. It shows in the crappy growth under the Obama regime.


17 posted on 12/11/2016 10:28:56 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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YIKES....I just read the whole article and this guy is nuts; completely, utterly, out of his freaking mind, or what little of it is left in working order.

I have NO idea who he is, but he is soooooooooooooooo over the cliff/so far gone/so brainwashed in absurdities, that it was a struggle, for me, to stop laughing at the crap he wrote.

18 posted on 12/11/2016 10:30:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: bigbob
he candidate with a 4th grade vocabulary. So, let’s see them copy Trump’s style.

I seem to recall a certain Gorebatronic Mr. Rogers down-talking that didn't go over well at all in 2000. They can't speak authentically because their authentic political desires are repulsive to the broad populace of voters.

19 posted on 12/11/2016 10:31:23 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember watching the debates with everybody worrying about who looked the most presidential and who scored the most points, and remarking how most of what Trump said didn’t even relate to the questions but was actually a sales pitch to the rust belt.

Hillary was preening while Trump was campaigning.


20 posted on 12/11/2016 10:31:35 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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