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We missed what was so effective about Donald Trump’s campaign speeches
Vox ^ | December 6, 2016 | Mike Conczal

Posted on 12/11/2016 9:59:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yikes. That is some scary stuff. He calls out Trump and his supporters for doing everything correctly to win, and then in the last paragraph he praises a full-blown Commmie rant.

“But even without that loss there would have been a need to reboot. As the reporter Ezekiel Kweku writes in an excellent article for MTV News, “The lesson we should draw from Clinton’s loss is not that white supremacy is unbeatable at the polls, but that it’s not going to beat itself.… If the Democratic Party would like to keep more Donald Trumps from winning in the future, they are going to have to take the extraordinary step of doing politics.” Politics is informed by analysis and policy, and though it is clear we need policy to move beyond neoliberalism, that is only the first step. The journey to find this new path is just beginning.”

These people are absolutely frightening in their insecurity and stupidity when they go down a path like this.


41 posted on 12/12/2016 12:09:20 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
I kept reading - - thinking there must be something there.

But there's not. It's liberal word salad. It's like hearing a man talking about a great love affair and boiling it down to 'she liked his brown shoes' - - that's why they loved each other for decades. You want to be loved? Buy brown shoes.

Clueless - you're right Pkiachu - totally clueless.

42 posted on 12/12/2016 12:18:17 AM PST by GOPJ (We've been lied to so many times by the MSM we might be living in a world that doesn't exist.Willia)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw Paul Ryan tonight in an interview where he says he had no idea election night would turn out that way. WRONG ANSWER. If you had your ear to the ground, you KNEW DAMN WELL that Trump had a decent chance of pulling this off. The correct way of thinking if you were aware of REAL MEDIA and msm, was to be fully cognoscent that Trump had a huge groundswell, would win MANY states, but could he make it? Could he win enough of the battleground states? You should have, as the speaker of the house, been as informed as I was, seeing that Hillary had certain advantages and could still win despite her crimes and unpopularity, but also seeing a few paths to a Trump victory.

There was no way, even before Election Day, that this was going to be a Hillary blowout. You would have to have your head far up the anus of the mainstream media. Which half the country apparently did.


43 posted on 12/12/2016 12:35:46 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Pollster1
Khrushchev? Is four consonants worse than three?

That's a transliteration problem. Four English consonants are really one Russian consonant.

Khrushchev = Хрущёв.

Х = Kh

ру = ru

щ = shch

ёв = ev

The interesting point is that funky Russian consonant щ.

44 posted on 12/12/2016 12:39:56 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“Poor clueless liberal.”
That is exactly what I was thinking. They still think that all they have to do is talk differently about the same pile of crap that we’ll buy it.


45 posted on 12/12/2016 1:14:54 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: ntnychik

Ha! Well said!


46 posted on 12/12/2016 1:35:20 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Vince Ferrer

The writer is trying to describe blue sky from the bottom of the rabbit hole. He assumes that manufacturing is dead and a 20th century throwback but can only think of ways to fool the voters and not deliver that type of job. The left is sure we should all be earning fifteen dollars and hour in a service job and that is all we have to look forward too. That and paid leave for a variety of excuses. The left is sure we are chattel while Trump knows we are yeomen.


47 posted on 12/12/2016 2:01:01 AM PST by x_plus_one
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To: Yaelle

Beg to differ. With the media so dead there is no way in southern Kansas to assess the hearts, minds and voting intentions of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Just because you know your friends and family are voting Trump does not translate into the rest of the USA feels the same. It is a BIG country and you can’t make assumptions. The death of the news media makes it hard to connect Floria with North Dakota voters. That is the problem - not knowing what to expect from the traditional blue states in a time of extreme uncertainty. Anyone who is sure Trump would win on Nov 8th is not believable. It was a miraculous victory that can be repeated again, now.


48 posted on 12/12/2016 2:09:37 AM PST by x_plus_one
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To: RegulatorCountry
Liberals act like they are the monopoly. And not one of them complained about the monopoly of Obama’s power over the past 8 years.
49 posted on 12/12/2016 2:16:14 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
IF he really seeks to understand why Trump beat out 16 primary contenders and then the lying crooked Hillry, he needs to start at the beginning.
50 posted on 12/12/2016 2:17:58 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

It wasn’t so effective, I barely paid any attention. In fact, I was never much of a Trump fan. There was just no way in H3LL that I would ever vote for Hillary Clinton. End of story. I have been quite happy with his actions so far.

Many years ago, he told Oprah that it was just ridiculous that America was footing the bill for all the military expenses involved with what we used to call “peacekeeping”. He also said he didn’t think that he would ever run for President unless things got really bad. I did agree with that.

He has often been asked that question, but I never thought he would ever run, and didn’t really think he was articulate enough -certainly no Reagan with communication.
I did watch the debates. Didn’t particularly like him in those, but abhorred her.

I did like him better than Mittens, or McCain, and so far, he’s been great. I particularly like having all those Generals on board-especially one that goes by the name “mad dog” that’s what we need facing the crazy enemies we have now-domestic and foreign.


51 posted on 12/12/2016 3:04:45 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes
But you were going to vote. Trump from the beginning tapped into the turned off citizens who were not interested in voting. I initially thought Trump was joking US, until I watched that first rally in Arizona. When he turned over his stage, to some American citizens, whose children had been slaughtered by obama and lying Ryan's illegals, I knew without doubt Trump loves our country. Trump did not shy away from who he was and how the political class uses ‘we the people’ for self serving gains.

To me, Trump, successful private citizen represented ‘we the people’. The disdain spewed upon him by the political class via their advertising arm, mass media, was symbolic in how the government views ‘we the people’.

52 posted on 12/12/2016 3:47:07 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

TRUMP’S acceptance speech at the Republican Convention was
absolutely a GREAT speech, laying out one after the other
how he intended to MAGA. - That night, he allowed Ted Cruz
the stage to give a speech. Cruz started out okay; but
finally showed his butt good and proper and I was ashamed
I’d voted for Cruz in our early primary.

TRUMP is a brilliant man.


53 posted on 12/12/2016 4:04:21 AM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy is deep into the swamp. I hope the DNC listens to his degrading view of whitey.


54 posted on 12/12/2016 4:12:19 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Just mythoughts

Whatever he did, I’m mighty glad. I do feel more optimistic than I have in some time. Sincerely like the Generals he has picked-when in war it just seems fitting to have one called “Mad Dog”.

I always vote, but for the McCain, Romney elections, I just didn’t bother to watch anything other than the debates. Of course, I do get most of my news from reading various papers including Canadian and UK. Very interesting what they report vs what our news reports. Used to be a real junkie when it came to politics.

It has been obvious for so long that the Federal Government sold out the citizens, I’ve focused on our state and local more-the 10th amendment-I discuss with state reps every chance I get, because at some point they may need to stand up to Fedzilla. Get out of the Government trough, because it’s so far in debt that it can’t possibly continue-plan for that day.

Like I said, more hopeful than I have been in a long time, but I very much worry that we already passed the point of no return, but we shall see. Economy and banking system could crash before Trump gets a chance for his policies to work. We’ll see. I just keep on prayin.


55 posted on 12/12/2016 4:13:04 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There was a time when Vox had some actual thinkers writing articles - not so much today.


56 posted on 12/12/2016 4:19:47 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Democrats could take back a lot of Trump’s blue collar support by outflanking him on immigration.

Issue a mea-culpa on immigration and admit mass immigration has harmed everyone but especially White working (and even middle) class. Propose actual restrictions on legal immigration (the real issue and far bigger than illegal immigration).

Tens of thousands of people did not line up for hours to hear Trump because they did not like Obama Care (Trump’s promises here were the same as other Republicans, including Romney); they were there because, at least implicitly, he sounded like he might stop their dispossession and displacement.

Many Republican policies are less popular than they appear: Obama Care itself seems unpopular but many facets of it are (wider coverage for poor people, existing condition etc.); Privatizing/voucherizing Medicare is not popular; Social Security has its acknowledged difficulties, but remains widely popular; More are tired of mid-East (or the idea of Russian) wars than are eager for them; Everyone likes a tax-cut but it is not the 1970s with 70% marginal rates.

Of course the Democrats won’t do this, but neither will the Republicans. Republicans look like they will push forward with the Ryan agenda(refugees welcome, mass legal immigration, big trade deals, gut the safety net) while trying to sideline the Trump agenda. This will ensure Trump is a one-term and unpopular president. If this happens then the election of 2020 will be a similar stalemate** to 2016 but Demographics will have moved against Republicans (and White people)and the Democrats will have a better candidate (could they find worse than Hillary?).

If the Democrats do move on immigration restriction (not ‘reform’) it will be no contest.

**While the election looked like a clear electoral victory the voting was actual quite close: a slightly larger Black turnout, a slightly lower White turnout, a little less Republican enthusiasm (think Romney) and it would have gone the other way. Absent Trump’s populist nationalist (and implicitly pro-White) message it would likely have been a loss.


57 posted on 12/12/2016 5:52:39 AM PST by evilC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Repackaging poop will not change the fact it’s poop. Hillary’s campaign was perpetually repackaging and rebranding her and it did no good.


58 posted on 12/12/2016 6:21:45 AM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Despite desperately trying to offer “objective” analysis, this article fully drips with snark, condescension, smugness, arrogance and elitism.


59 posted on 12/12/2016 9:19:31 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jackass. What's the first thing he gets into?
"It’s implied that he’s speaking of a specific kind of job, a white, male, breadwinning manufacturing job. He doesn’t discuss “the economy” and how it could work for all, he doesn’t talk about inequality, he doesn’t talk about automation and service work. He just declares that you will have a high-paying manufacturing job when he is president."
Trump never said white jobs and conservatives never took it that way. It only seems "implied" to leftists because they are the true racists. Everything's got to be about race doesn't it? Trump DID say he will be the President of ALL Americans. This guy must have missed it when Trump said that like 50 times. There's one other YUGE point this jackass is missing. We don't want global socialism.
60 posted on 12/12/2016 9:20:22 AM PST by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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