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The McCain-Feingold assault on our First Amendment rights was passed by a Republican-controlled Congress, signed into law by a Republican President, and affirmed by a Republican-controlled Supreme Court.

The Free Republic is first and foremost a forum to advance conservative ideals and not the Republican Party agenda. The two causes are (sadly) often on wildly divergent paths.

So please, put down your GOP pom poms.

I submit that ideas are more important than party loyalty.

1 posted on 12/10/2003 7:39:21 PM PST by ambrose
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To: TheAngryClam
ping.
2 posted on 12/10/2003 7:39:54 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Well, what do you propose?
4 posted on 12/10/2003 7:43:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson (All your ZOT are belong to us.)
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To: ambrose
Now you're going to draw the ire of the Bushbots. Woe unto you if you're haled up before the Inquisition, condemned as a heretic!

Hit your knees, infidel, and pray the Prayer of Penitence:

Republicans can do no wrong.
Republicans can do no wrong.
Republicans can do no wrong.

6 posted on 12/10/2003 7:43:37 PM PST by IronJack
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To: ambrose
So vote Dean.
7 posted on 12/10/2003 7:43:52 PM PST by squidly
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To: ambrose
All right, then...we'll all pick up our Dem pom-poms and root for Howard Dean and Hillary.

Would that satisfy Your Majesty?
8 posted on 12/10/2003 7:44:40 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: ambrose
So when are you running for President.??

GOP Pom Poms.?? Sure.
9 posted on 12/10/2003 7:45:41 PM PST by Pompah (If it ain't broke,fix it 'til it is.)
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To: ambrose
The McCain-Feingold assault on our First Amendment rights was passed by a Republican-controlled Congress, signed into law by a Republican President, and affirmed by a Republican-controlled Supreme Court.

Let me help you out.

The McCain-Feingold assault on our First Amendment rights was passed by a nominallyRepublican-controlled Congress, signed into law by a Republican President, and affirmed by a in name onlyRepublican-controlled Supreme Court.

10 posted on 12/10/2003 7:45:57 PM PST by NeoCaveman (who the F is John Kerry?)
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To: ambrose
With all due respect, get bent, ambrose.

You are free to ignore posts that support the GOP, just like most of us ignored your McClintock rantings.

It's up to Jim Robinson to conduct purges, not you.

11 posted on 12/10/2003 7:46:02 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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Ideas, like facts, can be stubborn things. They can also be really stupid things that go clunk in the night and lead people to vote for scammers and borderline nuts - the initials "HB" and "PB" come to mind...
13 posted on 12/10/2003 7:46:28 PM PST by 185JHP ( "What seest thou, Jeremiah?")
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To: ambrose
I didn't like it when Bush signed this idiotic unconstitutional bill. There are other things I don't like either.

On the other hand there are many things about Bush that I do like. The reality is that I will vote for Bush. The alternatives are unthinkable to me.

Please tell us what other electable candidate you would prefer to support.
19 posted on 12/10/2003 7:49:02 PM PST by Columbine
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I admit, I am not 100% thrilled with the current GOP's spending agenda. But some blame Bush outright when it wasn't Bush that created the pork barrelling.

He has to play the gov spending game in order to negotiate support for issues that need to be passed. Is he really supportive of large gov spending? We may not know while he is in office.

Will he be the best choice while in office? Absolutely.

We will never get the gov spending/pork barrelling out of office until we, the citizens, privatize it on our own.
20 posted on 12/10/2003 7:50:06 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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First, let me put my cards on the table. Bush's signature on this steaming turd was a mistake. I know why he did it, however. Had he vetoed it, McCain would have screamed bloody murder, declared himself an independent, and would have caucused with Daschle. You folks are forgetting that Daschle had turned Jeffords. It would have been easy for him to flip McCain.

That said, those of you who wish to stand by principle come what may forget everything Ronald Reagan tried to teach you. Reagan understood when to compromise. Barry Goldwater didn't . Reagan never lost an election. Barry Goldwater got creamed in the only election that counted.

Principle can only be advanced through a two-steps forward, one step back approach. It is a long hard slog, sort of like a Supreme Court nomination fight. My way or the highway won't win the cultural battle on gun rights, abortion, or any of the other social issues. You don't like this? Get your reps to start reforming the law. It's how things are done.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

21 posted on 12/10/2003 7:51:38 PM PST by section9 (Major Kusanagi says, "Click on my pic and read my blog, or eat lead!")
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To: ambrose
Before the final draft was even submitted, the "powers that be" of BOTH sides had already determined that ALL the restrictions could be overcome.

McCain-Feingold was as meaningless today as the day it was signed. There are pleanty of work arounds.

It does however point out that occonor is no longer to be trusted.
26 posted on 12/10/2003 7:54:27 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: ambrose
"So please, put down your GOP pom poms. I submit that ideas are more important than party loyalty."

What's all this gnashing of teeth.

Really, CFR is insignifigant in the scheme of things, especially when compared to things such as national security, taxes, religious freedom, and business regulations.

I am willing to bet that this new law doesn't make a whit of difference in this election.

Why? Cause people just find a way around it, just as they have done in regards to ALL OTHER election finance laws which have been passed previously.

The most that happens when a CFR law is broken is that some organization gets a fine, AFTER the election is over.

Check it out. When's the last time you've heard of any signifigant punishment for breaking a old CFR law?

30 posted on 12/10/2003 7:55:40 PM PST by Edit35
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To: ambrose
I will support whom I please thank you. If I happen to like President Bush - I will feel free to say so no matter how any purists think about it.

I may not like everything he does - but, he does not control everything in government - we have the democrat party trying to destroy this country.

When it comes time to chose who I wish to lead this country the next four years - I can wholeheartedly say - I want George Bush - perfect or not.
31 posted on 12/10/2003 7:55:42 PM PST by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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Everyone disgusted with this should take a pledge: If contacted by a polster, tell them you're voting for the democrat. Scare some sense back into those jack ass republicans.
36 posted on 12/10/2003 7:59:47 PM PST by DManA
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To: ambrose
FREEDOM is more important than party loyalty. So far the Republicans have done more than Clinton to undermine our freedom and sovereignty. Enough is enough. Vote them out!
37 posted on 12/10/2003 8:00:31 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ambrose
It hurt more RAT groups than it did GOP groups. Who cares, not me.
38 posted on 12/10/2003 8:01:41 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: ambrose
This is one Bush Republican that has no intention of stopping her support of President Bush because of the ruling of the SCOTUS. I don't work that way and this The Sky is Falling nonsense is getting annoying.

Instead of figuring out ways to work around this ruling some people would rather whine and put their heads in the sand that it is all over.

Do you see the NRA whining -- not on your life -- they are exploring ways to buy a media outlet. If you get dealt a bad hand, you play with the cards you are dealt. Your way elects a Dean or Hillary but then that is what some of you want it seems. Then you can get everyone on your side to complain.

Well this Bush Republican is not giving in to your The Sky is Falling Crowd! Maybe some of you should wake up and realize what this Country would be like under Hillary Clinton since you and others are trying to undermine Pres Bush every step of the way with your vanity posts just as you did Arnold. Well it didn't work with Arnold and it won't work with Bush.

All this post of yours had done is make me convinced to work even harder for the reelection of Bush-Cheney. I am not a one issue voter and will be because you will never find the perfect candidate.

A Hillary or Dean as President are not an option for the health of this Nation and for me personally.

If you don't like the fact that Bush Republicans are on this forum then ban us! What makes you the sole power to determine just what is conservative -- I didn't realize you were my judge and jury and frankly I resent this starting up like it did with Arnold.



41 posted on 12/10/2003 8:02:32 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- OU Sooners are #1in the BCS)
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To: ambrose
I posted my comments on this subject on another thread, so I won't repeat them here.
42 posted on 12/10/2003 8:02:51 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
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