Rush Addresses Illegal Alien Issue

Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | January 6, 2004

[sweetliberty]

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I started this thread because there has been much discussion here about Rush never seeming to address the illegal alien problem. Today he has been talking about it in the context of President Bush's meeting with Vincente Fox and the payment of Social Security benefits to illegals who have paid into the system even though they did so with false documentation.

At the moment he is talking about the increase in black Republican voters, but said he will get back to the illegal alien issue shortly and take calls. I thought there'd be interested FReepers that might be missing it.

[gubamyster]

ping

[Conservative_Nationalist]

I wish someone with the influence of Rush would start speaking out against illegal immigration and the Bush policies that support it. Michael Savage seems to be the only talk radio host who talks about this on a regular basis. This is the most important issue facing this nation yet it is largely ignored by most. Terrorist can't do half the damage illegal immigration is doing to our nation.

[hresources]

I realize there are a lot of strong feelings about the illegal alien issue, but the facts are that a lot of the illegals perform work that native Americans just wont do. Can you imagine what some of your produce prices in the Grocery store would be if we had Native Americans demanding $15.00 per hour to pick lettuce? If we have some way of documenting them as Bush proposes, we will collect taxes on their income (currently, a lot receive cash under the table). Bush is on the right track.

[putupon]

Rush stated that numerous big money contributors to both parties had long term illegal alien servants and employees who would be affected by immigration and social security policies.

[azhenfud]

This one too?

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[Richard Kimball]

Terrorists can also ride into the country in the flow of illegal immigrants.

[Burkeman1]

Off topic- But Rush had a real zinger against Bush today. He was talking about Lieberman's preposterous idea to limit insurance companies profits to 2% a year. Rush asked (paraphrase):

"Where in the Constitution does Lieberman think the federal government can run insurance companies? Where does he thinks he gets the power to interfere in private businesses? Why do these democrats think the solution to every problem is a huge entitlement or governmet interference in the private sector? Who do they think they are? The Bush Administration?"

[Lead Moderator]

Danke.

[jpl]

Can you imagine what some of your produce prices in the Grocery store would be if we had Native Americans demanding $15.00 per hour to pick lettuce?

Instead of paying at the grocery store, you're paying for it through your state and federal tax withholdings, your payroll tax, your state income taxes, etc. etc. Or do you think the health and education and other benefits for these folks are "free"?

[azhenfud]

Those corporations and individuals are the ones needing to be sued into bankruptcy before they bankrupt our nation.

[Conservative_Nationalist]

"I realize there are a lot of strong feelings about the illegal alien issue, but the facts are that a lot of the illegals perform work that native Americans just wont do"

The employers would just have to raise the wages for those jobs. Their would be plenty of AMERICAN workers available if the wages were raised for those jobs. I am not going to support the destruction(Which is exactly what illegal immigration is doing) of this once great nation because employers don't want to pay higher wages and the rest of our government doesn't want to enforce laws(Unless they are stupid laws against American citizens. They have no problem enforcing those). Bush lost my vote with his stupid plan and I suspect he lost many others also.

[DoctorMichael]

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[Reaganwuzthebest]

Can you imagine what some of your produce prices in the Grocery store would be if we had Native Americans demanding $15.00 per hour to pick lettuce?

You know the part of the state in NY where I live there's few illegal aliens yet, but there's a ton of farms and all the work's getting done. Has been for hundreds of years. Btw these aren't just small family farms but large ones that produce dairy products for the Northeastern region.

So the argument in my experience that we must have illegal aliens or prices will go thru the roof is just not an accurate one.

[azhenfud]

Normal minimum wage for agricultural workers is below the regular minimum wage, or don't they know that?

[reelfoot]

Those elected officials, regardless of party, who refuse to protect the sovereignty of this nation from illegal immigration do not deserve our support. Our culture is being eroded and the only thing the Republicans and Democrats (with the exception of Congressman Tancredo and a few others) seem to be concerned with is to try to pander to the Hispanic communtity for votes and pay off big corporations with low-wage illegal workers. I will not support a federal candidate who will not stand up for meaningful border control.

[putupon]

The lady caller right now must be using my posts for notes!

[Conservative_Nationalist]

Rush just said that many conservatives agree with Bush's plan because they are trying to destroy the democrat party. While that sounds like a good idea is it worth destroying the democrat party of today by becoming the democrat party of yesterday?

[RKV]

Field workers can make $10-15/hour (particularly when working piece rate). I know, because that is what my father-in-law paid several years ago at his vineyard in Fresno County. I worked along side them in the field and know how long and how much (I calculated the paychecks). That is not always the rate (for instance when farmers want the workers to be slow an careful they pay by the hour). For myself, I would rather pay more for food and less in taxes, which would be the case if illegals were expelled (supply of labor goes down, price goes up).