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The Antiwar War Hero (Kerry- who describes the war as criminal- draws attention to his own actions)
The American Prowler ^ | 2/11/2004 | George Neumayr

Posted on 02/11/2004 1:56:39 AM PST by nickcarraway

If the Republicans formed a group called Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, it wouldn't hurt for members. Kerry's description of the Vietnam war as a sustained war crime while springboarding to higher office off service in that supposed war crime has grated on many veterans since Kerry entered politics. A group of them made a point of opposing Kerry's first political run.

Ho Chi Minh said that he won the Vietnam war not in the jungles of Vietnam but on the streets of America where protesters fought the war for him. Vietnam veterans outraged at Kerry's antiwar hijinks would agree with Ho. Kerry's wild testimony before Congress in 1971 comparing American soldiers to barbaric Mongols under Genghis Khan endangered them.

"We wish that a merciful God could wipe away our own memories of that service," Kerry said then. Apparently he wasn't referring to his own service. Now Kerry campaigns on memories of that service. Kerry's memories were treated like his medals, worth preserving for later use. Just as he could toss the medals of other Vets while tucking his own away, so he could speak of other Vets' memories as too wicked to recall while drawing upon his own for political advancement.

If the war was as discreditable as he described, why should he take so much credit for fighting in it? And if it was such a criminal war, how did he come out of it so clean? On the one hand, he wants to cast himself as a soldier with a heavy conscience; on the other, he doesn't want to say that he did anything to weigh it down. Which is why Vietnam veterans resented his entrance into politics: he was taking credit for his role in the war while in effect saying it had brought discredit on theirs. Why was their service Genghis Khan-like war crimes but his heroism?

Antiwar war heroes in American politics are forced into a juggling act. They at once have to make a show of their "shame" while carefully cordoning off their war conduct from anything shameful. This allows them to get praise for the shame, since it shows an impressive depth of soul, but none of the blame for the shameful moments of the war. Because Kerry performed valorously in the war, he can parade his guilt about the war without anyone asking: So what do you have to be guilty about?

Kerry bristled several years ago when the Boston Globe wondered if his famous nabbing and killing of a rocket-carrying Viet Cong "behind a hootch" might have qualified as a war crime: "What's the best interpretation? That a breathless young lieutenant, his pulse pounding with the exhilaration of battle, ran some distance from the river bank in pursuit of a soldier, turned the corner behind the hootch and came face to face with an enemy ready to kill him -- and that he fired in self-defense. What's the ugliest possibility? That behind the hootch Kerry administered a coup de grace to the Vietnamese soldier -- a practice not uncommon in those days, but a war crime nevertheless, and hardly the basis for a Silver Star."

The Globe reporter saw significance in Kerry's cryptic comment to the New Yorker, "I just won't talk about all of it. I don't and can't. The things that really turned me I've never told anybody. Nobody would understand…These things are very personal. It was our youth."

Kerry, reasonably enough, didn't care for the Globe's scrutiny, calling the reporter a "desk jockey" with no knowledge of the dangers of battle. But he didn't see that his own rhetoric about the Vietnam conflict as a series of war crimes might have invited such questions. A Vietnam vet who describes the war as criminal inadvertently draws attention to his own actions.

His outlandish statement before Congress in 1971 about soldiers who had "personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in a fashion remininscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam" invites the question: How would Kerry have known about all of this?

Presumably he was relying not on his experience but on antiwar hearsay, in which case the statement was a careless denigration of the "band of brothers" he now touts.

For a politician who considers Vietnam a "barbaric war," Kerry takes a peculiar pride in it. If service in Vietnam was such a horrid memory, then voters needn't remember his.

George Neumayr is managing editor of The American Spectator.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2004; communism; kerry; kerryhypocracy; kerryrecord; military; veterans; vietnam; war; warcrimes
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1 posted on 02/11/2004 1:56:40 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Lancey Howard
George Neumayr Ping
2 posted on 02/11/2004 1:57:18 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: nickcarraway

HANOI JOHN

KOMMIE KERRY

TRAITOR JOHN

Make 'em stick, boys and girls.

3 posted on 02/11/2004 2:03:34 AM PST by Stallone (Guess who Al Qaeda wants to be President?)
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To: nickcarraway
Ho-ho-ho!
4 posted on 02/11/2004 2:10:55 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: nickcarraway
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5 posted on 02/11/2004 2:17:35 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Stallone
I think in todays terms you could say he was 'Ho Chi's ho'
6 posted on 02/11/2004 2:35:48 AM PST by Broadside Joe
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To: nickcarraway
"If the Republicans formed a group called Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, it wouldn't hurt for members. "

There already is such a group.
7 posted on 02/11/2004 2:56:31 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: nickcarraway
Is it not time for everyone to start referring, in casual conversation, to J. Fonda Kerry?
8 posted on 02/11/2004 3:23:01 AM PST by Socratic (Yes, there is method in the madness.)
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To: nickcarraway
How would Kerry have known about all of this? Thats what I would like to know. If he witnessed all these things, then how was it that he didn't partcipate? Give me a break!
9 posted on 02/11/2004 3:36:35 AM PST by beckysueb (Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
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To: Chi-townChief
My husband is a Viet Nam Vet against Kerry. Where can he sign up?
10 posted on 02/11/2004 3:38:02 AM PST by beckysueb (Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
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To: beckysueb
Just in case nobody sent you info.

http://www.vvaw.org/veteran/article/?id=82
11 posted on 02/11/2004 4:04:14 AM PST by Broadside Joe
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To: beckysueb
Oooops try this.

http://www.vvaw.org
12 posted on 02/11/2004 4:05:42 AM PST by Broadside Joe
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To: beckysueb; Broadside Joe
or click here:

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/
13 posted on 02/11/2004 4:12:29 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: nickcarraway
HANOI JOHN testifed under oath, lied under oath..committed prejury.
14 posted on 02/11/2004 4:20:58 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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15 posted on 02/11/2004 5:18:19 AM PST by Ramtek57
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To: nickcarraway
Kerry is a Born Again VN Vet....next he'll be campaigning in his old uniform.
16 posted on 02/11/2004 5:22:25 AM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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To: nickcarraway
My daughter, a senior at a Christian high school, has a wonderfully conservative History teacher. (His vehicle touts a CNN LIES bumper sticker.) He stated in class yesterday that he's seen John Kerry kissing Jane Fonda. I'm afraid I started screaming, "did you see a picture, did he explain his source?" My daughter, looking at me strangely, did not know; however, she has strict orders to get to the bottom of his statement today.
17 posted on 02/11/2004 5:33:16 AM PST by Quilla
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To: mystery-ak
I just watched Harold Ford Jr. on Fox and Friends. He tries to come of as fair and friendly, but became immediately irate when Doocey put up the Fonda Kerry pic.
What gets me is their arrogance, warning Republicans not to go there. It seems they "went there" first.
As I've stated before, Who do these pukes think they are?
18 posted on 02/11/2004 5:33:50 AM PST by bluegrass (What's your damage?)
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To: nickcarraway
Ho Chi Minh said that he won the Vietnam war not in the jungles of Vietnam but on the streets of America where protesters fought the war for him. Vietnam veterans outraged at Kerry's antiwar hijinks would agree with Ho. Kerry's wild testimony before Congress in 1971 comparing American soldiers to barbaric Mongols under Genghis Khan endangered them.

AND history repeats itself. BinLaden is saying the same thing that Ho Chi Minh said and Kerry is still giving wild testimony before Congress.
19 posted on 02/11/2004 5:39:46 AM PST by Toespi
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To: bluegrass
I watched the same interview...my theory has always been that they put this AWOL story out to deflect from Kerry's antiwar activities....what's worse, throwing medals or being awol....but, it's not working....Ford gave an ultimatum this morning, we'll shut up if you do the same...I think it's too late, they opened this door and it looks like it's gonna get nastier.

A lot of people remember Jane Fonda and her treason to this country, now we have pics of Kerry being associated with her.
20 posted on 02/11/2004 5:51:18 AM PST by mystery-ak (*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
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