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SAME-SEX MARRIAGE: 'Bush's Stance Led Newsom To Take Action' (AG Bill Lockyer was given 'heads up')
Sin Freaksicko Comical ^ | February 15, 2004 | Rachel Gordon

Posted on 02/16/2004 12:14:53 PM PST by L.N. Smithee

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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81 posted on 02/17/2004 11:40:36 AM PST by Barnacle ("It is as it was." JPII)
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To: L.N. Smithee
Lockyer should be recalled.
82 posted on 02/17/2004 11:52:15 AM PST by B Knotts (Deport Arnold!)
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To: applemac_g4
The governor (executive branch) needs to call out the national guard and bring the SF Mayor (executive branch) into line without appealing to the judicial.

As I've stated before, all that would do is make Newsom a media hero. Has there been any word yet from Arnie? I haven't read anything about his opinion on this, so far, he seems to not even want to wag a finger.

I think he knows that this is inevitable in CA, and has to pick his battles wisely. He probably feels he has a mandate for fiscal change, not for social change. CA was already headed down this path, its just that MA beat them to it.

What surprises me is that it hasn't come up here in the People's Republic of Washington. Right now, they're on the verge of passing a bill to add gays to the list of protected classes when it comes to discrimination. I suppose that looks pretty mild in comparison to what's going on in CA and MA.

83 posted on 02/17/2004 11:53:52 AM PST by hunter112
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To: Don Joe
It's civil war of course.

I tend to agree. That there have been no weapons fired is merely a technicality. It is nonetheless a civil war fought by other means. It's just that one side isn't fighting back.

I can't express in words how spitting mad I am over this. Not just because of the actual offense, but because of the utter double-standard, and the complete lack of respect for the rule of law.

We need to take the country back somehow, but I don't have any ideas of how to do it with a largely apathetic populace which is more interested in watching "reality" TV than in the future of their country.

This is far more important that what is happening abroad, but few seem to really care.

84 posted on 02/17/2004 12:01:10 PM PST by B Knotts (Deport Arnold!)
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To: Don Joe
So, there are degrees. Those are two extremes at either end of the scale. Everyone else is in between.

Understood.

As Mel Gibson said last night..........somewhere between Howard Stern and St. Francis of Assisi..........

May the ice thaw soon. I just spent the last half hour continuing to chip away at the several inches still left from our ice storm. But the smell of spring is in the air, and I like that.....

85 posted on 02/17/2004 12:41:59 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: L.N. Smithee
If this was the "right thing to do", why did they have to look at the "political consequences"? And if this were a true act of "civil disobedience", in the manner of Ghandi or MLK, why did they have to consider the "legal consequences"? What these phonies really did was to determine if they could "get away with it". They knew that Ahnold (in his "uniter, not a divider" mode) would be loathe to do anything, and they had the AG in their hip pocket.
86 posted on 02/17/2004 1:33:48 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: Happy2BMe
Unless someting is done, and done very, very quickly, we could face stiff fines and even jail time in the United States for speaking out against this . . .

That is my worst nightmare. I have been dreading the gay marriage issue coming into liberal courts for a rubber stamp since the eighties, when two Hawaiian gay couples tried to force the issue to the Supreme Court. But worst of all would be the Canadian-aping action of making reference to the Holy Bible a punishable offense.

87 posted on 02/17/2004 1:36:57 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Barnacle
Darn, i read the title and assumed Bush had done something to put a stop to this anarchy in SF.

Has anyone heard anything? are we just going to continue to let them do this, then let them litigate from here to eternity to get what they want?
88 posted on 02/17/2004 2:54:50 PM PST by OMalley
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To: B Knotts
We need to take the country back somehow, but I don't have any ideas of how to do it with a largely apathetic populace which is more interested in watching "reality" TV than in the future of their country.

We can't, IMO. That's the problem. The madness has gained enough traction to run its course, and the "opposition" is demonized as the "extremists". Orwell is laughing or crying from his grave. Or both.

This is far more important that what is happening abroad, but few seem to really care.

That's why they decided to make their move. It's not because of anything Bush said; it's because they realize that the country is sufficiently into the "bread and circuses" phase of the devolution to allow them to do it, and get away with it. Thus, my "Fall of Rome, 2.0" comment.

89 posted on 02/17/2004 2:59:00 PM PST by Don Joe (I own my vote. It's for rent to the highest bidder, paid in adherence to the Constitution.)
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To: ohioWfan
May the ice thaw soon. I just spent the last half hour continuing to chip away at the several inches still left from our ice storm. But the smell of spring is in the air, and I like that.....

You're in the Sunny South. It was below zero here the other night, and we've got a glacier built up against the sliding doors in the kitchen. I'm hoping it'll start withdrawing before it cracks the glass. I thought about trying to melt it, but then I realized there'd be too much risk of the melted water running deeper in, refreezing, and... I stopped thinking about it at that point.

There's close to a foot of snow in the walkway, and that's beneath what the snowblower cut out. We're on the East side of a huge field, and it drifts, and drifts, and drifts, and drifts like nobody's business.

This has been a brutally bitter winter here. Started out very mild, and I was hoping that would continue, but then it hit with a vengeance, and kept on hitting. Didn't help that I read Pournelle's "Fallen Angels" in the middle of it. <g> We've got a feral/drop-off (not sure which) mama cat living in our barn, we need to trap her before she gives us another litter of kittens (or succombs to the winter or the road). We rescued several of her kittens so far, they are the nicest kittens in the world, even the ones that had gone "full feral" before we caught them and needed quite a bit of taming. Our isolation cage has two kittens we rescued from the inlaw's farm, one of them tested positive for FIV (Feline AIDS, first case the vet ever saw), we're hoping it's a false positive (there's a 35% false+ rate with the office test kits), have to take her in for a lab test soon. Bought supplies to build a bigger cage for them meanwhile (and just in case), so that we can catch mama before this miserable winter beats us to it. My least favorite season (except in the middle of summer, of course, when I'm soaked in sweat with my CHF reminding me that I'm not really in charge of what I wanna do...)

I wish we had a genuinely temperate climate here, instead of this yearly Siberia/Everglades flip-flop. Something like year-round spring would suit me fine.

Well, nap time is over, time to hit the coffeepot.

90 posted on 02/17/2004 3:12:20 PM PST by Don Joe (I own my vote. It's for rent to the highest bidder, paid in adherence to the Constitution.)
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To: OMalley
Has anyone heard anything? are we just going to continue to let them do this, then let them litigate from here to eternity to get what they want?

I heard something on Fox, didn't catch it all, was just waking up from nap. Apparently the judge is playing games, is gonna let 'em keep on keeping on for the rest of the week before he'll even consider looking at the case.

IMO the fix is in, and was in before they "fired the first shot." I think this was a zero-risk endeavor for them, and further, I think they knew it before they began.

91 posted on 02/17/2004 3:15:27 PM PST by Don Joe (I own my vote. It's for rent to the highest bidder, paid in adherence to the Constitution.)
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To: Don Joe
Wasn't it PRESIDENT CLINTON who signed the Defense of Marriage Bill? Pres Bush is only upholding that law.
92 posted on 02/17/2004 8:53:04 PM PST by merry10
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To: Brian Allen
This is a major assault on the California legal system. If the courts won't halt this usurper, then the public should and must take matters into hand.
93 posted on 02/17/2004 11:28:27 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
<< This is a major assault on the California legal system. If the courts won't halt this usurper, then the public should and must take matters into hand. >>

True.

But it is worse even, than that.

It is a major attack in the War of Civilizations presently being fought almost single-handedly by our nation against almost the entire rest of the world.

It is Evil versus Good.

Blessings -- Brian
94 posted on 02/18/2004 3:06:45 AM PST by Brian Allen (O! Ye that love mankind! Ye that dare oppose, not only the tyranny, but the tyrant, stand forth!)
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To: Don Joe
I heard yesterday, just a blurp, that they are delaying a ruling based on a semicolon? Im not a lawyer, but when did punctuation become a reason for delay? This is total madness!
95 posted on 02/18/2004 5:06:38 AM PST by OMalley
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To: whereasandsoforth
Next will be phony "birth certificates" for ille...uhh, sorry, I mean undocumented workers.
96 posted on 02/18/2004 7:48:20 AM PST by steve8714
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To: Servant of the 9
If it weren't for Conservative Republicans and the good folks on this ("special interest group") (inside joke from another thread) forum we would all be living in a cess pool.




97 posted on 02/18/2004 3:31:39 PM PST by stopem
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To: L.N. Smithee
Petition to Arrest Newsom:

http://www.petitiononline.com/newsom/petition.html
98 posted on 02/19/2004 8:56:30 PM PST by Remember_Salamis
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